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  What is WT policy on a persons deceased ashes?

  by William Penwell in

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  i ask a question on my other post but i think it got lost.

  what is wt policy on what is approprate way of handling a person that is deceased ashes?

  the reason why i ask is because we are having a family disagreement of how to handle my fathers ashes..

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  A close relative of mine said if he had his father ashes, he would flush them down the toilet. This was said while he is an elder.

  Also as a side note, you can have ashes net off and have a man made diamond from the ashes, which is kinda neat

  NJY
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  Mrs Punk left the family!

  by punkofnice in

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  it's nearly 2 months now but mrs punk finally left myself (mentally diseased apostate tm) with my 2 non kingdum hell attending boys.. she left when my jw daughter moved out and they moved in together.

  i don't think it'll be long before my daughter gets sick of her mum but there you go!!.

  i received a call from mrs punk to say: 'i didn't leave you because of the religion!'.

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  If you could just get into that counselor as a client and give her/him the cult side of the story so that they might be more aware of what the kids are going through.

  I would throw in some Steven Hassan links etc to bring the counselor up to date with the WTBTS and how it is a high control group.

  Possibly this might help with the kids as they would see some info coming from a different source.

  NJY
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  where will you go away to? versus whom shall we go away to?

  by soft+gentle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this thread was sparked by punkofnice's thread and started a lively "discussion" in my mind about patriarchal power.

  so i didn't want to derail punkofnice's thread or tec's subsequent one, but am interested in a discussion.. punkofnice's thread.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/245335/1/the-gb-are-gods-mouthpiece-rebuttal-to-elders .

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  Isn't that what a abusive husband ask his beaten down wife when he senses that she is thinking about leaving him? "Where else will you go? No one loves you like I do, I do everything for you, you've got it good here, you don't know how bad it really is out there"

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  Is the Truth so delicate?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  2. friends

  the gb brooks no questions or dissention.

  their brand of truth seems quite delicate and incapable of standing up to scrutiny.

  "the truth is incontrovertible.

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  Marked due to,great thoughts.
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  Yesterday was my last meeting

  by nolongerconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday's watchtower study was the last straw for me...as you all have probably seen the post before me, here's the quote that did it for me.

  11/15/2012 wt "forgive one another freely".

  paragraph 16 - "in accord with jehovahs's will, christian elders have been entrusted with the responsibility of wrongdoing in the congregation.

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  I have not "missed" a meeting in over 18 months!

  If ya know what I mean,..

  NJY
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  The story of Bo Juel Jensen - the man behind the Anti-Watchtower media campaign in Norway

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi guys.

  richard e. kelly has kindly contributed a great article to jwsurvey.org on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/bo-juel-jensen-could-he-be-watchtowers-worst-nightmare.

  richard tells the story of bo juel jensen, an ex-witness who has been doing marvellous work in raising awareness of watchtower child abuse mishandling in norway.. as with most child abuse victims, bo's story is a disturbing one.

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  Anyone know where the interview that Bo made is available online?

  Im talking about the one where there was a cult expert on the panel.

  NJY
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  New here and just sick!

  by msconcerned in

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  2. friends

  hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.

  anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.

  i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.

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  Welcome,..

  In case up I have not found it yet, there is a great site that shares much info you will be interested in.

  Jwfacts.com

  When you feel more comfortable you need to look up, " cognitive dissonance". It's what a person experiences when he confronts valid evidence that conflicts with what he currently believes to be true. And also what has to be done to reduce the dissonance in your mind.

  We are the SAME people you would have seen walking around the assemblies, Kingdom Halls, quick builds, etc we have just decided that there are too many things that must be looked into to find out what is wrong.

  We are not wicked apostates, that is just a label that the WTBTS has put on ones like us that recognize that something is amiss. They must label ones that are able to think for themselves to prevent everyone from waking up to what is going on.

  Never be ashamed or let the WTBTS shame you for waking up to the lies.

  Anyway, welcome and continue to move forward with your research. As Gloria Steinham once said " The truth will set you free, but first it's going to piss you off"

  NJY
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  Is There A Part Of You Still Left In The Organization?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  every soldier entering the war zone leaves behind a little piece of themself.

  the gulf war is estimated to cost the v.a.

  billions of dollars in disability because of the affects the war has had on these young and middle age soldiers.

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  More than likely there is some small parts of me that is still in the congregation. But I don't care anymore, I must move forward with my life!!!

  As you know "fingernail" clippings can be hard to get out of that cheap carpet sometimes.

  NJY
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  Rutherford Doing Some Work

  by Bangalore in

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  bangalore.

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  notjustyet

  Of course he has his sweat wiping rag on his side for quick dispatch of any droplets that might form on his brow.

  NJY
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  Who writes the WBT$ 'publications'(TM)?

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  flipper's brilliant thread got me thinking.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/244690/1/crazy-weird-quotes-in-1-15-wt-article-wt-society-opinions-nothing-more.

  yeah, i know it's the 'writing committee'(tm).. who the hades are these jumped up nitwits?

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  I have thought that they must have some NLP in there somewhere.

  I remember reading the magazines and whenever I would see the word demonstrated it was usually always at the end of a line where it was broken demon-

  strated.

  I do not remember it being ever in one word. Possible but thought that if I were the WTBTS and were shooting striaght I would do my best to make sure that this did not happen.

  So who know,...

  I think that it was my stumbling on Derren Brown shows on TV and then watching his stuff on youtube that gave me the impetus to start to see how easily human minds can be altered into thinking whatever a person would like it to.

  WAKE UP CALL,....

  The first viceo was the one with Simon Pegg where he changed his memory,.....here is a link to the video and he explains how he does it afterward.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg

  Check out his stuff if your not familiar stuff. Check out his "anchors" and his "handshake induction"

  Later,..

  NJY