You know I downloaded the trial transcripts and saw a great video on YouTube showing the things said by Franz and Covington but do not know what the trial was actually about.
Anyone care to share the meat and potatoes on this trial.
NJY
does anyone know what happened to douglas walsh when the society lost the case?
all the references to the case concentrate on freddie franz and his inabilty to translate a single verse of the bible into hebrew and to grant suiter who let the cat out regarding disfellowshiping and altered doctrine.. walsh, i understand was a pioneer and possibly the congregation servant.
did he go to prison?
You know I downloaded the trial transcripts and saw a great video on YouTube showing the things said by Franz and Covington but do not know what the trial was actually about.
Anyone care to share the meat and potatoes on this trial.
NJY
my dad asked the co about this one.
mat 27:52-53. and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, .
and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Elder said
" Man is so smart now that he can send a spaceship from the earth to the moon and never hit a star"
NJY
i ask this because the wt always bangs on about if you trust in jehovah and make that leap into pioneering, you will always be provided for.
at the time i joined the cult, a friend was continuous aux.
pioneering.
Any coincidence between " Miracle wheat" and the more common " miracle we eat"
NJY
it's simple, once you know how.. paste your youtube link into the editor.. highlight the entire link, then click the chain icon (in the middle, just below "font family").
paste the link into the link url field, then click insert.
this turns the the link into a clickable link.
ive seen a few threads discussing misquotations, including the quote about roman times taken from a book of fiction.
apologies but i cant recall the author or the book mentioned but im sure others will know what im talking about .. so how many books do they read to find these quotes ?
they must b e buying a lot of apostate books just to find a worthy quote.
WTBTS. " If the rank and file only knew what lengths we go to, to obtain library access"
we do, we do,...
( I know that was not the real reason)
NJY
predicted armageddon would come when?.
today i added a new article to my blog highlighting watchtowers play-toying with predictions of armageddon.
the organizations governing body apparently knows how to cry wolf!
It amazes me to see just how many times they make damning statements that they themselves are the most guilty.
I truly wonder if this is not some type of known diversionary trick, ploy, to divert the attention of the Jw reader.
I'm thinking that the Jw mind reads this and subconsciously thinks " why would the WTBTS bring to light things nth at they tthe lev are guilty of?" And this might prevent their minds from ever clicking to the point where they take a look inward at the WTBTS.
NJY
i have not been going to the meetings for just over nine months and was wondering what to say when an elder asked am i coming back.
if i say no will i get df'd?
we have not gotton any phonecalls or visits but a text message asking if we are coming back.
Text back,. " your text to me makes me feel suicidal"
njy
i wanted to find out where carl sagan got this info from.. i know they, the wtbts thought that the end would be in 1914, then 1915 but do not remember reading where they made the statement that it did end.. .
thanks, njy.
here is his quote:.
Hey guys and gals, thanks for all the info!
Reading Mr Sagans quote I was thinking that CTR would have had one of those "mystical moments" where they turn physical things into spiritual things like they tend to do.
Something's like, " As far as Jehovah and his true followers are concerned, the world HAS come to an end already. He is ALLOWING it to continue as much as the worldly governments will allow a prisoner who has been found guilty and is sitting on death continue to live, for the time being"
Wow, I think I was almost channeling CTR there for a moment,.. Lol
I thought the would have been one of those, mystical swaps.
NJY
i wanted to find out where carl sagan got this info from.. i know they, the wtbts thought that the end would be in 1914, then 1915 but do not remember reading where they made the statement that it did end.. .
thanks, njy.
here is his quote:.
i wanted to find out where Carl Sagan got this info from.
I know they, the WTBTS thought that the end would be in 1914, then 1915 but do not remember reading where they made the statement that IT DID end.
Any help out there?
Thanks, NJY
Here is his Quote:
One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and - whole the events of that year were certainly of some importance - the world did not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014'. A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvinenced in any way. But they did not. They could have said, Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth. But they did not. Instead, the did something much more ingenious. They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the fact of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough- mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration was needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry. [Carl Sagan, Broca's Brain]
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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .
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Theres an app that will allow you to stream live video from an Iphone etc so others can watch via FaceBook.
Anyone want to do this for the cause?
NJY