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  Hello

  by newdawnfades in

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  i am a long time lurker who has finally decided to post.

  i am still in along with my wife, kids and extended family.

  i am in my 40s and was raised in the org.

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  notjustyet

  Welcome,..

  We've been waiting for you,...

  Take it slow with your family, if your like me, initially I did not take into account that I had been doubting for years and when I found out some of the things that the WTBTS were guilty of I thought that my wife could take it all in at once, I was wrong and had to slow it way down until she was able to handle it.

  She's out now thankfully.

  You may already know about some of the books that will help get you through this mind mess and also will help with getting your family out, but just in case you have not seen these recommendations yet, here they are.

  Jwfacts.com - Lots of great research at this site.

  Combatting Cult Mind Control By Steven Hassan

  Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs: by Steven Hassan

  Captives of a Concept by Don Cameron

  Crisis Of Conscience by Raymond Franz

  NJY
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  Could the JWs sway you back...?

  by new22day in

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  op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.

  hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.

  (i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.

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  notjustyet

  Witness My Furry,.

  Thanks for the link,..

  NJY
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  Steve Hassan's BITE model mapped to WTS Part 1

  by Julia Orwell in

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  this is a project i've started to prove i'm not an apostate: mapping bite to wts.

  part one is the first criteria of cult control, behaviour control.

  feel free to add to these subheadings too, as many of you were in a lot longer than me and have been in bethel or been elders.. .

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  notjustyet

  Check out Brad Zooks channel regarding how the BITE model applies to the Jws.

  It is a 4 part series that I think you will find interesting.

  http://www.youtube.com/user/zookb

  NJY
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  Live To 150?

  by metatron in

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  http://www.businessinsider.com/drug-based-on-red-wine-could-help-people-live-to-150-2013-3.

  i'm skeptical because i think defective proteins limit longevity but i think the above could greatly improve aging prospects.. .

  metatron.

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  notjustyet

  I researched resvertrol a few years ago and althought I know nothing about living to that span in life I do know that the company that discovered the link between the skin of the red grape where I believe the ingredient comes from was night put by a large drug company for over 750 million dollars.

  There are some videos on YouTube like 60 minutes that talk about the original discovery.

  I actually take it myself as the research, if its not tainted are promising.

  Who knows but I do not poo poo things now until I do some research.

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  My non-jw cousin was a victim of a hit and run invite...

  by NeverKnew in

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  i'm now the receiver of all queries jw since everyone knows about my beloved.... the first words out of her mouth?

  "hey!

  some jws came by and handed this invitation to me for something called a memorial.

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  Back when we were inviting associates to the Memorial I had one ask jokingly " You guys are not going to sacrifice me or anything, right?"

  We chuckled a little then anothe Jw with me asked him "On a side note, do you know what your blood type is?"

  Blank stare,...

  NJY
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  My chat with an Elder about the UN thing! Help!

  by awakening in

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  well it was a very long discussion.

  the elder knew nothing about the scandal, but he stated that he had no issue with it since when the case was brought to light, the society acted immediately to right their course.

  in fact he thought it was a sign that that the organisation was indeed the "truth".

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  Something just hit me about this issue and the last "new light", Do you think that the new idea about only being the GB when all are "meeting together" could be used, at least fr future mishaps to excuse the lone gun GB member that gets caught doing something such as this.

  We've all heard the comment when a JW does something bad, like rob a bank etc "There not a Jw " reasoning that this somehow keeps the Borg clean.

  Could this be used currently to prevent any more mishaps like this one? I mean at this point, anything a GB member does could be dismissed as not coming from Jah since they were not meeting all together as the GB. Kinda of a get out of Jail free card for the WTBTS, although the actual member would be the one held accountable.

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  My chat with an Elder about the UN thing! Help!

  by awakening in

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  well it was a very long discussion.

  the elder knew nothing about the scandal, but he stated that he had no issue with it since when the case was brought to light, the society acted immediately to right their course.

  in fact he thought it was a sign that that the organisation was indeed the "truth".

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  Here is a link that will tell you all you need to know,

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php

  The WTBTS were also slamming the Catholics Church for having 24 groups signed up with the UN, this was brought out in one of the mags, and was a quote from a book. What they forgot to quote the preceeding sentence from that book that said that these groups were NGOs/ Within the year the WTBTS signed up as a NGO.

  :Ast page or 2 of the elders book, Shepherding the Flock talks about one who joins a non neutral group as disassociating itself. They incriminate themselves.

  The real crux of the matter is to find out why they signed up, and it was not to gain access to the library as brought out in the jwfacts.com link.

  NJY
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  Re: Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

  by check in

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  you all had some interesting thoughts on that jw memorial thread.

  some of you mentioned that you are going so that you can set some sort of example.

  i gather that some of you believe that by going and eating, you are somehow showing them they can (or should) do it too.. that really confuses me.

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  notjustyet

  Not attending, 2nd one to miss,

  I will not be going as It is paramount to show our children to stand up for what is true as knowing TTATT and attending, at least in our circumstance, would be showing the kids that we are still under their directions and that we are not sure of our decision to leave. I cannot give my children the thought that we somehow think that the WTBTS has 1 iota of truth in it.

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  Changed Writings

  by Bangalore in

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  changed writings.. .

  source : wt quotes site.

  thy kingdom come (studies in the scriptures vol.3) (1908) p.228 .

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  notjustyet

  Thanks Bangalore,..

  NJY

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  What ever happened to Douglas Walsh?

  by St George of England in

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  does anyone know what happened to douglas walsh when the society lost the case?

  all the references to the case concentrate on freddie franz and his inabilty to translate a single verse of the bible into hebrew and to grant suiter who let the cat out regarding disfellowshiping and altered doctrine.. walsh, i understand was a pioneer and possibly the congregation servant.

  did he go to prison?

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  notjustyet

  Slimboyfat,.

  Thanks,.

  NJY