as i was laying in bed i thought of a question to ask my wife.
"when the wt has an article on the next change in teaching or new light, just guessing, what do you think it might be?".
it does not need to be phrased just like that, but i thought it might be a powerful question since it would make the jw subconsciously question all of the current teachings, something they are not taught to do.
I asked my brother, who is still in, "Are you saying that their will not change any doctrines from this point onward?" He replied," No,.. You know we can't say that will never happen" I then replied " So your admitting that some of the things that you believe now, could be wrong,.. some of those things you base your life and the life of your children on" I hope that this would stick in his head and simmer a bit.
NJY
i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.
with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.
anyway the situation is the following.
Do they have any recorders out in your parts?
Be a nice thing to have later, just for fun.
NJY
many times at the kh i heard the various brothers boasting how the kh had good numbers in attendance and the churches of christendom did not.. i 've just worked out why this is; you cannot leave.
you either fade, get df'd or da yourself.
talk about hobson's choice.. talk about me seeing the light!!!.
You forgot about dieing.
NJY
... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!
draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.
excruciatingly boring.
There is a youtube video out there that shows some old Jw literature that states, at different times that both Satan AND Jesus were Abbadon.
Not that you would find it interesting enough to watch but thought it interesting.
NJY
according to a new "bible questions answered": " the wild beast with seven heads introduced at revelation 13:1 represents the worldwide political system.".
i know that they have quietly been backing away from the un identification for awhile.
is this feature on jw.org a new official teaching, or just a spin for the sake of the public?.
This thread reminds me to pick up some mushrooms for the salad tonight.
NJY
in recent weeks the jw’s here in the uk have been setting up their new portable watchtower literature displays in my local town square on a saturday morning.
as they hadn’t knocked on my door for at least five years, and consequently feeling somewhat neglected, i thought that i would pay them a visit instead.. .
the first thing i needed to do was arrange my literature.
I had somehow missed it also,. Thanks for resurrecting it,..oops,..
Idea for anyone planning on sharing info like this to those working the booth.
What do you think about having another person plan on showing up after you get there and have them listen into the conversation. You would want the other person to not look like they were not involved with you of course, just clarifying. This might make it harder on the Jw to tell you where to get off. They would have to keep their cool and act interested as now there are other people involved and of courser they have to give a good witness.
NJY
may be 90 000 wt speakers mounted the kh, ca, dc stages this weekend, all believing in the "talking snake--" and many will firmly plant their foot in the mouth, without realizing it.. here is our gem:.
talk on true friends: illustration on friends "not- to- have" :.
2 friends go hunting.
" Then one Jw says to the other, we've been out here hunting for a few weeks without any contact with the news what if Armegeddon has occured and we just don't know about it yet? What if the the bear has reverted back to being a vegetarian and means us no harm, what if.. oh,.. my effing god!! He's biting down into my SKULL, I can't BEAR, NO PUN INTENDED, THE PAIN!!! OH MY GODqfqw qwd sdqwefqw qef wheeze,... wheeeze,... weeeeeeeeze,.. slobber,.. blood oooozze dribble sound,.. wheeeeeze,.. why,.. why would jehovah,... why would,... jehovah let that bear,.. why would jehovah let that,. bear eat part of,.. part of my brain,.. if he's now a,.. if he's now a ,. a ,.. a vegetarian,..... I see the,.. I am starting to see, the , the new light, it's like it's a bright white light right inffront of my eyes,... "
NJY
i was a member of a congregation in brooklyn, n.y. prospect congregation to be exact.
in early 2000.it was dissolved.
i never found out why.
I've heard that there was a directive from the WTBTS to get the board members of the local KH Corporation to modify the by laws that allowed the WTBTS to assume ownership of the assets like building etc in case of the dissolvement of the congregation. It was being ram rodded by the CO when he made his visits and thought that I had seen a youtube video about this in the past but cannot find it now. Any information on this?
NJY
he sold his bicycle.
malachi, an elder who lives in burundi, earned his living by farming and by transporting loads on his bicycle.
in order to support their kingdom hall construction project, malachi decided to be at the construction site every day.
I watched a old black and white film about "The bicycle theif" a few years ago I think it was made in Italy and had the father who had a job plastering posters on the walls of the town and needed a bicycle to get to and from work?
Is that the one?
Also, not that I'm a bicycle fanatic but remember seeing a movie when I was younger about a town in Mexico where the rich man in town had the only bicycle and a little boy made himself a bicycle out of wood. Anyone remember this as I wanted to show it to my children but cannot find it.
NJY
the 2014 yearbook has a scan of the 1914 countdown card.
it does not say whether this was published by the watchtower or independently, so please let me know if you have any further information about it.
in typical offensive fashion, the yearbook blames the members rather than themselves for the false expectations held for 1914.. some bible students even carried a countdown card so that they could mark off each passing day.
The scan from the Oct 15 1913 Watchtower says:
"It is for each to accept or reject the facts"
I found that they would use the word "facts" instead of "evidence" or some other word. To me, when you use the word "facts" it means
it is beyond rejection to believe otherwise. It's like they were trying to allow themselves room for a later rejection of looking to a certain date but at the end of the sentence they insert a word that does not allow room for any other conclusion but to believe what they are pointing at.
NJY
