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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  If the WTBTS COULD shut down these boards but do not, what would be the reason?

  I'm thinking that the ability to get an account here and post some CRAZY APOSATE rhetoric would almost play into the Apostate description that the WTBTS has told it's members to expect if you go on these sites.

  Some of these members come naturally and I beleive are not a "mole" but I think that it would not be too far fetched to "create" some members that ACT like they are mentally diseased. I mean this IS WAR right and if I were the WTBTS I would do what ever I could to scare away any members that might be lurking in these sites. If I were newly out and dropped into a site like this one and others and saw some of the things written my a few members I might stick my tail between my legs and run back into the Organizatio. Why would they NOT do this as they would be thinking that they would be helping their fellow brother. They create the phobias, why not fullfil them also.

  I say create a forum for "Thinking Out of the Box" threads that only seasoned members can have access to until the lurkers get a chance to see some validity of the post of some of the more balanced members.

  Just a thought,..

  NJY
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  What are the best questions to ask an elder?

  by DarkFireWolf in

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  so my parents cannot answer my question and are pretty much pushing me to go to the elders for an answer so i'd like to know what the best questions to ask an elder are.my first question is going to be the mediator one..and if he tells me it's the 144,000 or the anointed, i'll ask him to show me where it says that in the bible.what are some other tough questions for an elder to answer?assuming we can get past the mediator one of course.i'm going to hold off on asking about new light or 607... also, has anyone ever asked about how satan can cause wwi in july if he wasn't expelled from heaven until christ became king in october?i haven't gotten much of an answer to that either..

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  I can give you the answer to the latter question. Not that I believe it, but if I DID believe it I would say that "Satan the devil was not prevented

  from going back and forth from Heaven to Earth UNTIL 1914, before that he could travel between the 2 without any restrictions. As shown when he talked to Jehovah with the matter of Job in Heaven and also was upon the Earth tempting Jesus. So he was able to start the war prior to October since he could have been on the Earth the entire time. In 1914 he was cast down to the Earth and prevented from going back to Heaven"

  Is there something wrong with this reasoning?

  NJY
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  Sacrifice one for the sake of many, all they need to do is to be able to justify that it is okay for the masses.

  I believe that it has been said that the WTBTS might use this and other sites as a "barometer" to see what troubles the JWs to know what should be

  covered in the Watchtower in the future. For instance if they see new members coming here and discussing the disbelief in the new definition of "generation" then it would be in their best interest to write more articles and get out the "caulking gun" to try to plug the hole to prevent more from leaving.

  I mean if WE could get some device to be able to listen in on the GB meeting we would do it, right? I believe that the GB and the WTBTS in general views these sites and the biggest hole they have to contend with and if they can 'listen in" on what we are saying, doing, planning etc they have a leg up on the pulse of the ones leaving.

  So I think that this might be the reason that they do not attack this site vs some of the ones that are more of a "one way" information sharing. I mena, that's what I would do if I were them.

  NJY
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  Someone speculated that the WTBTS hires worldy non JWs to review this site and others like youtube etc and do the dirty work explaining how they can have these sites shut down without worrying that a JW reads it.

  NJY
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  INTRODUCING! The world's only TRUE organized religion!

  by stillin in

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  Wait, Wait, don't tell me, it came invisibly!!

  NJY
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  Anyone Else See Les Miserables?

  by BizzyBee in

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  i went to see it today - by myself (mr bee is on a golf junket).

  i was glad that that i was by myself because i cried so much at the end, i wouldn't have wanted to be with anyone who wasn't crying - and that would not have been mr bee!.

  les miserables the current film is adapted from what is considered one of the half-dozen greatest novels of the past 150 years and one of the longest novels ever written.

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  THE MOVIE,.. oh, okay, I thought that this was a thread about the recent DC,.. I get it now.

  No I like the one with Liam Neeson and prefer my music to not snap me back into the reality that I was just invlolved in watching a movie. I mean did people back then just break out into a song?

  The last time a song snapped be back into reality I was attending a DC.

  NJY
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  WT elders school: The elders in our circuit appear to be "trained" quite well

  by sir82 in

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  more ramblings from the recently concluded elders' school.. see the op on this thread for background: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242491/5/wt-elders-school-the-wts-has-progressed-from-just-plain-stupid-to-dangerously-stupid.

  in part of the video mentioned above showing the "goofus" elder trying to handle the situation with the crying sister:.

  the "goofus" elder went into the kingdom hall library alone with the sister when she left the auditorium.. you could hear literal, audible, gasps from the 100 or so elders watching the video.. a few moments later, as the sister was crying, "goofus" put out his hand and touched the sister's hand.. again, literal, loud, audible gasps from the audience.. they darkened the room while the video was playing so i couldn't see him, but i have to imagine the co was quite pleased that the audience grasped the "mistakes" that elder goofus was making.. .

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  Go and google "saltwater clam" images.

  But seriously, someone should put a small camera in a book bag and do some practice with it to see how to set it up so that you could record the entire video. You know that the Holy Spirit will not hender you.

  Just freaking do it and we can blur out any elder faces later.

  I would pay money for this. Come on, think about it?

  NJY
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  Atheists and selfless potential

  by thecrushed in

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  something has just occured to me this morning while taking a shower.

  i think it might be pretty obvious to others but for some reason it just hit me today suddenly.

  religion for many is just a donkey and a carrot.

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  Being a non believer, I feel, has made me more moral than before. I want to do my part to help "push" the human race forward.

  A Human race is a terrible thing to waste.

  We are the ones responsible for our own actions and we need to act responsibly in those matters as taking the fork in the road with the idea that their is a supreme being that will handle all this in the end may is repugnant, embarrassing and non responsible to me as a human.

  NJY
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  WT elders school: The elders in our circuit appear to be "trained" quite well

  by sir82 in

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  more ramblings from the recently concluded elders' school.. see the op on this thread for background: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242491/5/wt-elders-school-the-wts-has-progressed-from-just-plain-stupid-to-dangerously-stupid.

  in part of the video mentioned above showing the "goofus" elder trying to handle the situation with the crying sister:.

  the "goofus" elder went into the kingdom hall library alone with the sister when she left the auditorium.. you could hear literal, audible, gasps from the 100 or so elders watching the video.. a few moments later, as the sister was crying, "goofus" put out his hand and touched the sister's hand.. again, literal, loud, audible gasps from the audience.. they darkened the room while the video was playing so i couldn't see him, but i have to imagine the co was quite pleased that the audience grasped the "mistakes" that elder goofus was making.. .

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  He said

  "he had gone to sports bar alone to eat dinner, a "worldly girl" had asked to join him, after a few drinks she asked him to "come to her place to see her aquarium", and then she "seduced" him."

  And the brother commented "She did not say that exactly, she asked if I wanted to come back and see her "Salt Water Clam" and I mistook that to meen her Salt Water Aquarium, my bad.

  NJY
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  My wife and I went to dinner with a group of "worldly" - NORMAL - people

  by dazed but not confused in

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  my wife and i were invited to dinner by a coworker of hers.

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  Tell her that they are ALL potential studies and that she will hear about it on her part of the assembly.

  NJY