on thing that really makes me angry and disgusted is when i think of the way in the past that the elders pressured me over and over again to have a meeting with them over a petty make out and petting incident.
they asked such instrusive, personal questions like, “did he touch your breast, for how long?
under or over your clothes?” i know that this happens to thousands of people, especially young women, and it’s just not right, it makes me so angry that i almost feel tempted to confront the elder who especially did this, when i see him at the convention in a few weeks and tell him what a sick person he is and how much trauma he caused me, manipulating me and pressuring me to answer such instrusive questions while he sat there and took notes!!
I'd tell him that you hope that the organization has adjusted its policies and have stopped asking (young) people such obtrusive, invasive, inappropriate and potentially litigious questions (where is ok for 3 grown men to ask a young person (or a woman of any age, really) sexually intimate questions? ) Grooming, anyone?
Scare the shit out of him!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/15/primary-school-.
primary school teacher tried invading temple of jehovah's witnesses when 'eight out of ten' drunk, hearing hears.
samantha beresford credit: wales news servicea primary school teacher tried to invade a hall full of jehovah's witnesses after getting "eight out of ten" drunk at an end-of-term staff party, a hearing heard.
Shouldn’t the person who was offended be confronted by the Jw and forgiven if repentant?
Bath?
yesterday they started a three part series on hasidic jews living mostly in brooklyn and new jersey and how they take advantage of the system and at the same time rule with an iron hand for bidding the use of modern technology, smart phones, tv etc .
if you think the witnesses are bad, take a look at them.
they ostracize you and kick your children out of their schools and treat you as nonexistent !
I’ve only seen Hasidic people in nyc though I know Orthodox Jews all over. Once went to a convention in nyc or nearby where the assembly was smack dab in the middle of a Hasidic neighborhood. I remember worrying that I was being taken to some JW next level compound (I wasn’t associating of my own desire) That I feared Jonestown then was my wake up call. No family was worth living with that kind of uneasiness.
jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.
if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.
now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
Black Spirit,
Your religion actively taught me that loving God was proven by distributing their literature and asking for a donation. That was pure worship. When family members are in hospital, not one congregation member visits, but the blood liason committee shows up more reliably than an ambulance chaser.
This organization actively taught me (,in its prime growth time) that charity was a displacement of our Christian priorities and that there was welfare and food stamps - for our JW needy- while most food banks were in churches and Christian centers, where JWs were not supposed to go.
The WT has totally missed the pure spirit of what Jesus was preaching and it's a shame. If you put as much energy and money into actually benefiting your local communities, you could have amazing growth.
austria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.
in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.
seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
It is not required to change ones name when converting, but I’ve noticed that some encourage it. It's not religion but custom in some circles. My friend from work, Cecilia, converted but no one told her to change it. Some have asked if she plans to. She doesn’t.
i just heard this the other day.
growing up a jehovahs witness is like growing up in no.
korea.
That brain washing line is old and tired. JWs always smirk when regurgitating is. Ugh
austria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.
in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.
seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
India prohibits foreign funding of Christian (,maybe non hindu) groups.
Funding or no, any person who is promoting violence in a country should be removed.
I do wonder if they are enforcing this on any smaller Christian groups in Austria or if they will close their eyes to other groups, like perhaps right wing(?) race baiting churches (I know they have groups-are any coming from churches that promote hate groups or Westboro Baptist types? )
just wanted to pose the question to the group and see what the general opinion is vs what the wt may have claimed in other cases.. we all know that they have argued over clergy privilege when elder learn of a crime but keep quiet about it.
regardless of what one may feel about this, lets assume for a minute that they are correct.. all elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse.
would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"?
Clergy privilege is not a valid concept in 2018. It’s a leftover church rule that was originally from a time where the church had political clout/power. They could dictate rules. It isn’t 1432 anymore .
i have been rereading a lot about rutherford lately; about his personality and the kind of person he was.
i have come to the conclusion that he was a lot like donald trump.. he was an accused womanizer.. he was a narcissist with a self inflated ego.
he claimed to be persecuted by the media all the time.
Trump isn’t a drinker, though! Rutherford was by all accounts a frequent imbiber of booze.
