Jrjw,
First of all welcome!
I still look for truth, not the truth, and not in an organization.
It takes a while to work out the mind conditioning that there is an organization with "the truth". It is a control mechanism.
It is o.k., and you will be o.k.
Remember that the quote from the Bible is "who shall we go to?" NOT "where shall we go".
Hugs,
Wakanda
here is a fascinating subject.
according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.
we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).
ttdtt: TROLL
the greek bethel at 77 kifisias avenue, marousi, athens, is up for sale.
below is the sales video:https://vimeo.com/242230932see also: http://www.danos.gr/property-sale-in-marousi/.
from the bethel tour brochure:.
omg I hope you are right Gorby.
my pimi (physically in, mentally in) friend believes she was marked without them telling her.
i believe her, and she has been making work for the elders.
she is a pain in their arse, and they are a pain in hers, which is great.
Thanks all.
Fink, All too familiar with that stuff. My parents used that excuse to be lazy and not let us hang our with anyone. Well, except for people that lived far away and could not get together with us often. This talk was quite specific though, so much so that I cannot even mention the topic. Please except my apology.
More confused, thanks for the affirmation. This is leading to some major pre-shunning for my friend, and I have mixed emotions as it is hard for her. But, then it may help open her eyes.
Thanks Fred. Great name btw!
my pimi (physically in, mentally in) friend believes she was marked without them telling her.
i believe her, and she has been making work for the elders.
she is a pain in their arse, and they are a pain in hers, which is great.
My PIMI (physically in, mentally in) friend believes she was marked without them telling her. I believe her, and she has been making work for the elders. She is a pain in their arse, and they are a pain in hers, which is great.
Is this official, or just another secret control mechanism? What do you think or know?
Thanks in advance.
Wakanda
went to the meeting last night with my believing wife.
the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.
basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.
so--really all thats happened is 3 sets of meetings each week instead of 4. same number of bums on seats each week.
O.K. So here's my two cents. I was in a congregation that had about 30 irregular publishers a few years ago. The CO came around and said we were in a bit of a crisis. OH NO!!! ha ha.
Well, next CO visit he said we were doing great! Ummm. What? We had about 5 more that had become irregular. In talking it up with others, they said that it was that the irregular became officially inactive. Nice. They care, don't they? But, this is how I want them to treat me instead of calling like they do, just ignore me! I digress.
THEN, we merged with another congregation. Big numbers at first, but now there are another 30-40 irregulars. It is easier to fade in a bigger congregation, and moving congregations. This is the only merger I know of personally. It helped the already faded, and helped more to fade!
They don't know their head from their butt. I think they saw people leaving after Breaux's talk (exjw reddit growing for example) and decided to play a repeat to try stem the flood, plus the seven dwarfs are lazy, old, too busy with vacations, and tired.
the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..
If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?
You would be DFed, unless you are one of the privileged, elite, untouchable.
Those people can say "love doesn't hide anything, I'll meet with you in public". (Humble bragging to Randy M in a resent video.)
As for this peon, it would be their reason to get me out. Hence the aliases we see here a vast, vast majority of the time.
i have the first volumes of the watchtower from the 1800's to the 1900's.. .
i will highlight vol.
2 january 15, 1892 to help the reader understand the truth regarding russell and his supposed appointment as, what the watchtower this year referred to, "he certainly was that minister" ...making vague reference to his being called "the laodicean minister" (found on his tombstone).
Pennsylvania Deutsch Dutch!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch
I've heard they adopted the mispronunciation because of WWII. We're not German, were Dutch, yeah yeah, Dutch!
Apologies for the tangent.
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
So sorry PE. F*@k(ng cult is right. It makes one shit storm after another.
Having any ailment in this cult is made more difficult because they are always bringing it up in a way to make the so-called "victim" feel helpless, and remind him or her of his or her challenges.
I admire Aspergers people; they are incredibly talented.
Hoping for the best for you and your brother. You did great just ignoring the goons, and only asking for their names (practice makes perfect :().
Thank you for speaking up Magnum. I wish warmth when you are in your car in the cold.... damn.
Always appreciate your insights. Please keep posting.
