hi a court in the uk in loughborough have fined the jws over £1 million pounds for the court costs for a child abuse case in loughborough in the east midlands..
Indeed, not a fine but compensation + costs.
I doubt that anything can really be true compensation, but at least it could go some way to making restitution for the lost income caused by disturbance to her education - or pay for her adult education. It will also assist with any therapy costs if she chooses to go outside the NHS for help.
I was surprised to see that leave to appeal was denied, but without seeing detailed reasons, it's not possible to comment in-depth on that.
so, i am trying to get my head around what the right position of elders should be when they come across crime is.. i think i get the issuess around clergy confidentiality - and how that might potentially be breached when they talk about it to other elders, let alone the police.. but if people are saying that elders - or clergy of another faith should report crime to the police when it is confessed to the, then where are the boundaries.. so if someone says they should report to police on a confessed example of child abuse, that's one thing.. how about reporting to police consensual sex between a 19year old and 15 year old - which is statutory rape in the uk.
how about criminal fraud if they come across it.
assault on a congregant?.
A very thought-provoking question, and I don't suppose I have an answer.
For a start, I feel that if a crime is in danger of being repeated it should qualify; people who interfere sexually with children are usually repeat offenders.
And then there is a crime where repetition wouldn't be likely to occur (perhaps murdering someone in anger), but the seriousness overcomes being forgiven without legal restitution being made (i.e. probably a lengthy term of imprisonment in this case).
I suppose that if someone drove recklessly while angry and there were no consequences, that need not be reported, especially if they went for therapeutic help on anger management. But if there were consequences like injuring or killing another, again the seriousness ought to take precedence.
If it came to stealing something minor from a shop, undetected, and someone was genuinely remorseful, personally I think that could be dealt with in-house - maybe by making financial restitution anonymously and stripping of "privileges".
No hard and fast rules perhaps, but I suppose the problem would be about leaving such decisions in the hands of people who know the perpetrator personally and who would be biased about bringing a bad name on the organisation.
what do you make of this graph?.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=graph+population+of+earth.
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What I make of it is that humanity was struggling while still emerging from the ice age but gradually found its feet. As conditions improved, the birth rates and death rates approximately matched. 40+ was regarded as old age and many children died from disease. Even until the early 1900s, it was normal for at least one child in a family to die. There were higher birth rates generally, but people lived shorter lives on average. There was a time when being born at the start of winter was practically a death sentence. The spike at the end of the graph is probably attributable to better medicine, diet, sanitation etc. as people live longer on average and childhood death, particularly in wealthier parts of the world, has slowed to a relative trickle. The escalation in population has also taken place against a backdrop of vastly improved contraception. There have, apparently, been signs of population growth slowing. There may be several reasons for this. China, which once contained one third of the world's population, initiated a one child per family norm by making it unviable to have a second. I believe this has recently been relaxed. Although other nations haven't been so up front about it, there seems to have been some tinkering to make families less affordable. This can cause some resentment because rich bastards can have as many kids as they wish,
as the title says--i'm out of here for good.. the site is full of atheists, communists, 7th day adventists, creationists, believers, deceivers, receivers, football supporters,.
dodgy types, cantleave---and assorted wankers.. so no place for me--because i'm none of the above so dont fit in.
so--this is goodbye forever my friends--its been almost average knowing you.
Blessed are the window cleaners.
looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.
here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.
to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.
From Konceptual99: So that's the vast majority of their monthly target done doing NOTHING towards the preaching work but the figures still go into the pot and they still can walk around the KH and RC with chubbies on boasting about how much they do in "scared service".
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I'm not a spelling or grammar nazi, but I just had to highlight the typo "scared service" as it was so funny :) - rich in ambiguity.
looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.
here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.
to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.
Financially, it will be a good move for them. Property prices around Mill Hill dwarf those in the Chelmsford area. Even allowing for moving and building costs (mostly wage-free labour), there should be plenty left in the kitty at the end. Also, new buildings can be designed to make the running costs very low these days. If they go eco-friendly, they can have very low electricity bills. Indeed, lighting and perhaps even some of the heating can be funded from solar panels. If they use recycled, running water to power wheels, that can provide even more electricity. It may even be possible to sell some back to the grid - depending on what machinery they want there. Even toilet water can be treated and recycled for showers - it sounds yucky but it happens a fair bit these days; you don't read much about it as the hotels etc. that do it are scared of it putting off the customers. Add to that, new buildings cost less to maintain anyway.
would a jehovah's witness ask you, the householder, "does christ dwell in this home?".
i have recently viewed the lady in the van, which was filmed principally in north london.
i am currently reviewing a transcript of alan bennett's play of the same title, looking for the exact quotation (the above may not be verbatim).. also, in the movie's subtitles, the word "curb" is spelled "kerb" in the original transcript.
Saename said "I loved the British accent."
This is a source of mirth for me - like there is one British accent :)
i have a question for all the creative writers out there.
if i'm writing a book, can i quote anyone that i want, as long as i give them credit?
for instance, i want to quote mark twain, imitating rocky, quoting donald trump.
Don't take my word for it but I think that a limited amount of credited quoting is permitted under 'fair use'.
would a jehovah's witness ask you, the householder, "does christ dwell in this home?".
i have recently viewed the lady in the van, which was filmed principally in north london.
i am currently reviewing a transcript of alan bennett's play of the same title, looking for the exact quotation (the above may not be verbatim).. also, in the movie's subtitles, the word "curb" is spelled "kerb" in the original transcript.
In general, the variations between British English and US English:
When adding -ed or -ing to a word, we (Brits) are a lot more likely to double the final consonant. To avoid doing so would sometimes encourage a vowel sound in the stem word to go long rather than short.
We use 's' a lot more than 'z' (e.g. realise).
We have an extra 'u' a fair bit (colour).
Switch 're' and 'er' sometimes (e.g. theatre, centre).
Yes, the edge of the pavement (sidewalk) is a kerb. We do use curb, but not for that.
Excellent film. Maggie Smith's portrayal was one of her usual stunning performances. It's hard to know what a JW would say. I was once working on a shop front in the town centre. A (JW) voice behind me asked if I knew who was the king of this world. I thought they at least taught them manners to pass by people who are clearly busy.
im sorry if this has been addressed, i have not seen any topics on this yet.. the wt for today seems to state, quiet plainly, that preaching work is done.
para 14,15 the question asks:.
"what proves that jehovahs witnesses have fulfilled jesus' prophecy with regard to the scope of the work?".
The JWs used to say that everyone will know about the 'Truth' - and then the end will come.
Years after, I had a little flashback to this when reading one of the offshoots from Douglas Adams' 'Hitchhiker's Guide ...'. A character called Bowerick Wowbagger becomes immortal by accident. To relieve his boredom, he sets about visiting every creature in the universe, in alphabetical order, and insulting them. Due to creatures being born regularly, his task is impossible.
Sound familiar? :)
