They said it.
I was there, though I left in '73.
Gargamel
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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75
by dogon ini have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
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Gargamel
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Crisis of Conscience Raymond Franz
by Disassociated Lady 2 inthis book has been recommended to me a few times.
is it worth reading?.
how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?
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Gargamel
I used to have two copies of this. I gave one to my sister as one of her Christmas presents (oh the irony!), and the other I gave to another ex-jw. My sister was many years out at the time, but was still struggling badly with subconscious apocalypse syndrome (I just made that one up).
Unfortunately, they are have been out of print for a while and the person who bought the copyright hasn't got around to arranging a re-print. Hopefully, the copyright hasn't been re-sold to the JW organisation, as I imagine they might pay a decent price for it.
It was the book that started my sister's recovery. I had already debunked the myths by the time I bought the books. I had to wait several months for them to be shipped from the USA and when I received them, they had been opened (and re-sealed) by Customs & Excise. At the time, I think there was an import duty on books, but not if they were deemed 'educational material'. I guess that reading them must have been pretty educational for someone at the Customs Office.
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I found my wifes new blood card
by Steel ini would like to say i am not in and my wife is a marginal witness at best.
she doesn't say anything bad about the borg or live an amoral lifestyle.
she just doesn't read the bible, or even the tracts anymore and generally has no clue about anything biblical or doctorial related.. i found my wives new card yesterday.
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Gargamel
I know it may be wrong, but I would override someone's wishes on this issue - not that I'm ever likely to be in such a situation.
I take the view that it would be acceptable to override in the event of mental illness - and I also take the view that refusing medical treatment on religious grounds is a symptom.
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Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?
by HereIgo ini have never understood this.
was it because of legal reasons?
i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.
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Gargamel
Because their process is flawed.
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Singing
by skimthesurface indespite not wanting to be a jw anymore and not being at meetings for a few months, still have k. songs coming into my head- both from old and new song books - usually whilst working.
anyone else?
how does it make you feel?.
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Gargamel
I wonder what happens if you play those songs backwards.
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Gargamel
My perception is that the EU is one of those things that crosses political divides. However, traditionally the Tories have been more Eurosceptic than Labour. Immigration seems to have brought a lot of the working class around to a more sceptical way of thinking.
Trump builds walls. We brick up tunnels.
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ls homosexuality really normal?
by atomant inl know animals do it but their animals.they dont live by a moral code.the thought of 2 men going for it is not normal.what are your thoughts?.
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Gargamel
I just think live and let live really. Homosexuality isn't normal for me, but it is for homosexuals. I don't have a problem witnessing it in public or on TV. However, I will say that the thought of anal sex is a bit icky for me whatever the genders involved. And yes, I did do it once with a girlfriend who was into it, and I didn't feel comfortable with it. No big deal. I'm not comfortable with every sexual practice, and that happens to be one of them.
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Inappropriate Behavior
by rebelfighter innow i know i am getting older or of the older generation.
i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.
so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.
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Gargamel
You switched the topic from the original post. You are not prepared to hear a view that differs from yours. Original post: Man does a quick change without exposing his bits. Moved to: Kid strips off due to being previously abused. I sympathise, but we can't expect the rest of the world to adjust itself to our convenience. So kid is never allowed on the beach due to people being in swimwear?
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Inappropriate Behavior
by rebelfighter innow i know i am getting older or of the older generation.
i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.
so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.
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Gargamel
Maybe it's me but so long as he's not showing his tackle, I don't think it's a problem.
Mind you, when I was rough sleeping, I did sit in a launderette with just a towel on while my only clothes went through wash and tumble dry. It was a very large towel though so I was well covered. There was hardly anyone around either.
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The Sadness of the Poet
by compound complex ini feel a sadness so deep that friends wonder why my art and my blinds remain undrawn.. gone is the muse who promised me solacewhile guys played ball and climbed tall trees.. a blank canvas before me says, "here's your life, where has it gone?".
is it too late to become what imight have become .
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Gargamel
Good stuff CC. I like to play around with the written word sometimes. I'm currently writing my JW stuff and what happened after. It was traumatic, so I have a lot of breaks from it. That's when my mind wanders to poetry. Like most people who do it, I treat it as a hobby.
A good site I found is www.writingforums.com . I've learned a lot from the people there and, for the most part, it seems a friendly place. That doesn't stop some of the critique being forthright, exactly what I need as I prefer honesty.