i knew about elders being "deleted" and have commented what a strange and pejorative term that is, but it wasn't until "wtwizard" and "designs" commented on another thread about it that it actually hit home for me.. one cannot step down as an elder with any dignity!
elder's can't quit, with the word "quit" being as in "he quit his job.
" elder's can't resign as in "he resigned as chairman of the board for xyz corp.".
I've heard that term "deleted" used before on a number of occasions. My case was different.
They said that I was "no longer serving as an elder", possibly due to the circumstances behind it being perinatal loss. This was after many months of doing absolutely nothing in the congregation and missing many meetings. (They didn't know the real reason was that I had discovered TTATT and learned of the child sex abuse and rape cases in the Borg.)
after listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.
as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.
i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.
Thank you for the info you have provided. I'm going to use this as a basis for discussing why the wife and I no longer support and JW activities.
haven't posted in years, but thought i would today, since something reminded me of this story..
it's 1970 in our london-suburb congregation and it's the circuit overseer visit.
as part of his talk on the saturday night this co - john anderson, anyone remember him?
Great story!
I remember when we became "bible study people" and not "the magazine people."
Some friends got so used to just blindly placing magazines and NOT using the bible that they got kind of a bad rap. So starting quite a few years ago we were instructed to always use a scripture when placing the monthly trash paper. We were also instructed to ask for bible studies and demonstrate them where possible. Suddenly that was supposed to change us to "bible study people" instead of "magazine people."
Funny thing is now the Witlesses are just "Cart people" and "Jw.org people."
"the sole purpose of our existence as a society is to announce the kingdom established in 1914 and to sound the warning of the fall of babylon the great [in 1918].
we have a special message to deliver.
"--- fred franz's words to bethel family, november 17, 1979..
Their purpose is to go against the grain in every way. To lie as much as can be handled by the R&F. To con as much money out of the R&F as humanly possible. Finally to do their utmost to destroy faith in society as a whole, and break up families.
so my wife is really nervous about having lunch with her mother today.
she is an über-dub who is always asking probing questions as to our spirituality.
i think she knows that we are fading out.
Thanks for the suggestions. I think my wife doesn't like confrontation so she would rather avoid the subject and honestly I don't blame her. It's her mother after all.
I told her to tell her mom to mind her business. 1thes 4:11. I know she means well but we are almost 40 years old now. Honestly I think we got life pretty much figured out by now.
so my wife is really nervous about having lunch with her mother today.
she is an über-dub who is always asking probing questions as to our spirituality.
i think she knows that we are fading out.
So my wife is really nervous about having lunch with her mother today. She is an Über-Dub who is always asking probing questions as to our spirituality.
I think she knows that we are fading out. She brings up all the classic horror stories of those who leave. She asks about our new hall. She always wants to talk about "the truth."
What can my wife do? She's pretty nervous about this lunch.
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Thank you for sharing!😊
Of all the stories in the bible, the flood has to be the most retarded. There is way too much evidence to prove that it didn't happen. It still amazes me that people believe that some old guy and his family built a boat and squeezed all manner of life in it from different continents. Not to mention enough food and water. Also to think that fresh water fish survived this global catastrophe is unreal.
Belief in this story in its entirety is a measurement in gullibility.
well it's been 18 months since i left the witnesses.
my goodness what can i say?
well let's start from the beginning.... 1) i am happy, yes i am (i know im not meant to be as the jw's would like to believe).
Glad you are finally living "the real life!!!"😊
There is so much this world has to offer and dubs unfortunately are really missing out. That's probably why they are so depressed and depressing to be around.
I think my mother-in-law knows the wife and I are no longer going to meetings. We told them that we moved to a hall 45 minutes from home. She keeps bringing up stories of how miserable ex-JW's are. Funny as the wife just said last night that she has never felt better since we stopped attending meetings.
my heart goes out for all people stuck in all high control groups, either with insight into the falsehood of their beliefs or none.. to remain a member whilst knowing it false however, must be soul destroying.. my question is, would you carry on living the lie if you discovered that we get one life, one go at existing.
it's short, it's fragile and nobody in 100 years will care we even existed..... .......if you came to that realisation would you quit?.
.......if you had children, would you leave in order to set them an example in strength and appreciation of the short time we enjoy?.
Realizing life is short is the reason why I don't give a crap anymore. I am self-disassociated. I have not done so formally. Life is too short to be screwing around in a false religion.
My heart goes out to those whom because of financial or family obligations, have to stay in for the time. That has to be torture on the mind to "play the game" with family and friends.
Myself, if I get caught doing something wrong I will simply tell them to eat me. They have no power. They are just men running a publishing house of lies. Nothing more. 😊
