I used to worry about all these passages in the Bible, trying to fit them in with a God of love. Then someone explained to me that the bible we have today is not complete. The original text had some words that are missing in our versions. The most important are found at the very start, they translates to "Once upon a time"
Posts by Annon
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46What is the most troubling or disturbing biblical passage you ever had to rationalise when a Jw?
by stuckinarut2 innow that we have stepped away from the jw faith, how do you feel about the bible itself?.
what about those awkward sections of scripture?
how did you rationalise or justify those sections?.
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The book burning has started
by pale.emperor indon't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.
the ms who's been given the task is a company man.
no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.
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Annon
Matthew 1:1 lists 14 people Starting with Abraham and ending with David, a list of fathers and their sons. Fourteen people are listed, Abraham, his son, his grandson, and so on, then verse 17 says " All the generations then from Abraham until David were fourteen generations". The father one generation his son another generation his grandson another.
Seems quite simple. (No overlapping generations nonsense there)
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Has the Governing Body EVER apologized for anything?
by Wild_Thing ingeoffrey jackson testified to the arc that the governing body has apologized for things in the past, so an apology to sexual abuse victims is "perceivable".
what has the governing body ever apologized for?.
22 q. just on that point, mr jackson, has the governing body23 considered apologising to survivors of child sexual abuse24 at the hands of elders within the organisation?25 a. i haven't been in any discussions with regard to that.26 27 q. is that something that you foresee might happen ‐ in 28 other words, that an apology at least be considered?29 a. the governing body has apologised on other matters, so30 for me to say ‐ i can't speak collectively for everybody, 31 but we have apologised on things in the past, in other32 areas, so it is perceivable.. .
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Annon
Often the phrase "this publication once stated" is used when referring to major errors in the past, as if the magazine or books came up with the erroneous ideas by themselves!
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Couple of real gems in the WT study for this upcoming weekend
by sir82 insince blondie seems to still be on sabbatical, i'll take the liberty of highlighting a couple of "gems" from this week's upcoming study, from the article "reject worldly thinking".. from paragraph 12:.
is it true that succeeding in a secular career that offers power and prestige leads to lasting happiness?
remember that the craving to control others and the longing to be admired are the desires that enticed satan, but he is angry, not happy.. .
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Annon
Same watchtower says man cannot solve problems such as war. World wars show "man has not learned to avoid war", says the magazine. But a few watchtowers ago it was stated World War 1 and all mans problems were caused by God chucking Satan out of heaven and down to the earth in 1914, everything was great and peaceful before that. So who caused World War 1, Satan, God, man, or was it the tooth fairy?
I think the whole article was given the wrong title, it should have been called "Reject Thinking"
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Did electrical energy evolve or was it created?
by atomant inlt appears this topic has not been debated.energy has to come from something it doesn't come from nothing..
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I must check the current theories.
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Women must not instruct men, even by singing a theocratic song.
by Ultimate Axiom ini did a quick search and this doesn’t appear to have been commented on here, but if it has been, i apologise in advance for starting an unnecessary thread.. regarding a change to a song title, the study article on page 7 paragraph 17 of november 2017 watchtower explained, “the change of the title “guard your heart” to “we guard our hearts” was most considerate.
in the audience at our meetings, assemblies, and conventions are many new ones, interested ones, young ones, and sisters who by singing the words would be put in the awkward position of telling others what to do.
so the title and the lyrics were modified.”.
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Annon
Rather weirdly singing and telling everybody to "Listen and obey" (Song 89) seems to be OK.
Of course that was the name of the song 5 mins ago it may well have been changed by now!
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Why do ex-JW's talk so much about being ex-JW's?
by Sour Grapes inis it because we were in the cult watchtower compound that we talk about being ex-jw's when we stop being active?
i have never heard anyone say that i was an ex-catholic or an ex-lutheran or an ex-baptist.
they just stop going to their church and don't talk about it.. years after not stepping inside a kingdom hell, many of us still have to talk about being ex-jw's.
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Annon
Very few religions tell you what medical treatment a parent can give their child, or that you may not speak to your own daughter because she now believes something different from you, or what kind of education you can get, etc etc.
The greater the control the greater the rebellion when you realize you have been conned, and maybe when people complain it is just because they have a desire to help others avoid being conned too.
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Hell Exists
by Poppy520 inmany people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.
examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.
nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".
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Annon
I think hell might exist because there is a story about a huge building surrounded by fire and lava and inside is a large dragon, making a journey to this evil place is a giant and a donkey that speaks! Oh wait that's Shrek, sorry, got my talking animals mixed up.
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December 6, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Study of Jesus—The Way
by wifibandit indecember 6, 2017 to all congregations re: study of jesus—the way.
jesus—the way, the truth, the life.
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Annon
And to introduce the item in the meeting about how important Jesus is, they will use a song from the new song book that has the name Jesus in the title. Unfortunately there isn't one!
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Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)
by rulehayl inhi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.
my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.
she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.
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Annon
rulehayl You seemed to have judged every single person on this forum without knowing anything about them.
You will make a great J.W.