@silent: You're still in at the moment? (I am, personally. Just woke up this past year.)
cappytan
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Waking someone up using WT Article on "Doubts"?
by cappytan inhas anyone had success in using this article to convince their family member or spouse that critical research of what the society presents is important to build faith?.
this article has this passage that jumped out at me:.
of course, not all doubt is bad.
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Waking someone up using WT Article on "Doubts"?
by cappytan inhas anyone had success in using this article to convince their family member or spouse that critical research of what the society presents is important to build faith?.
this article has this passage that jumped out at me:.
of course, not all doubt is bad.
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Has anyone had success in using this article to convince their family member or spouse that critical research of what the Society presents is important to build faith?
This article has this passage that jumped out at me:
Of course, not all doubt is bad. At times, you need to suspend acceptance of something till you are sure of the facts. Religious exhortations to the effect that you should just believe and should doubt nothing are dangerous and deceptive. True, the Bible says that love “believes all things.” (1 Corinthians 13:7) A loving Christian is certainly ready to believe those who have proved trustworthy in the past. But God’s Word also warns against ‘putting faith in every word.’ (Proverbs 14:15) Sometimes a person’s [or organization's] past record gives legitimate reason for doubt. “Although [the deceptive talker] makes his voice gracious,” the Bible warns, “do not believe in him.”—Proverbs 26:24, 25.
The apostle John also warns Christians against blind belief. “Do not believe every inspired expression,” he writes. Rather, “test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” (1 John 4:1) An “expression,” a teaching or opinion, might appear to emanate from God. But did it really come from him? Exercising some doubt, or suspending belief, can be a real protection because, as the apostle John says, “many deceivers have gone forth into the world.”—2 John 7.
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Of course, we did not just blindly believe all that we heard. We did what people living in the city of Beroea did. We ‘carefully examined the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.’ (Acts 17:11) We ‘proved to ourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God’ and made sure that what we had heard was true. (Romans 12:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:21)Taken from: w01 7/1 pp. 18-21 (Bolded for emphasis and also to highlight my commentary.)
This seems to me to be direct authorization to question and test the doctrines of the Society.
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Need to vent: Wife just went in full cult mode, huge fight. she is so brainwashed
by goingthruthemotions inout of the blue my wife started to ask me about my feeling about the borg.
i told her i didn't want to talk about it...she persisted.
she already knows how i feel, i told her that my biggest beef is that they use mind control, and yep she went in to how i was an apostate and how she doesn't want to be married to an apostate.
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cappytan
hang in there. Que Sera Sera.
My mom went into cult mode tonight over the phone. [redacted]
She started blabbing about Holy Spirit, and I shut down and just started parroting the party line. Felt like such a hypocrite afterwards.
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cappytan
I don't know if this address still works, but I have it in my contacts from back in the day.
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A Mind at War
by cappytan inright now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.
they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".
certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.
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cappytan
Man, freemindfade, you're right. This does feel like a detox.
Thanks all for the words of encouragement. I'm using y'all as a sounding board, a therapy. It's selfish to use others, but as Ayn Rand implied, there can be a virtue to selfishness. (Paraphrasing)
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3rd Gen DF'd finally writing
by AFreeBeliever ini've been reading many of the postings on this forum for a couplefew years, finally joined today.
i think reading cappytan, and others like that, compelled me to share, it seems i might have a bit of a different outcome than many i have read, perhaps it will be hopeful/helpful to someone.. i was a born-in, 3rd gen jw, my entire family (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and most all of my childhood friends) were in.
some dropped by the wayside as the years went on, but many stayed in, and if they didn't, they still acted/talked as if they believed it was "the truth" and it was their weaknesses/failings that made them stop attending.
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cappytan
AFreeBeliever: thanks for your story. It actually is strengthening that there are those here that haven't completely abandoned certain ideals.
I don't know where this rabbit hole will take me.
The beauty of human rights, though, is we have the opportunity to believe and not believe.
I'm looking forward to finding my spiritual center, whether that be based on science, scripture, philosophy or a combination thereof.
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A Mind at War
by cappytan inright now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.
they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".
certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.
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The Watchtower Yoke is not kindly and their load is not light. -
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A Mind at War
by cappytan inright now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.
they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".
certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.
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cappytan
Right now, I feel like my mind is at war with itself.
On the one side is Reason, Logic.
On the other is Tradition, Hope and Fear.
Reason and Logic are challenging life-long beliefs. They are telling me, "Is this any more believable than the story of The Lord of the Rings?"
Certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.
My mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a Creator, his son Jesus and the Bible. Those aren't crumbling at this time (yet).
However, as other deeply held doctrinal beliefs fall like dominoes, I can't help but fear that it will affect my faith in the scriptures.
I'm worried right now. Worried because I know where this path leads. It leads to both freedom and heartache. It leads to moving forward while leaving others behind. It leads to the possibilities of new beginnings, and the likelihood of personal loss.
Do I take that path? Or do I ignore my reason and thinking ability to preserve such things as family, friends and comfort?
I don't know. This is hard. It sucks. A lot.
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Recorded argument with elders trying to DF someone
by Jay Elle inthis video may have been posted here before but it is new to me.
the lingo seems very very famillar with the bullying that the elders give us all.
they want their pound of flesh...but call it loving and theocratic.
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2015 Regional Convention Theme - unofficial-
by WatchTower87 innews about 2015 regional convention theme?.
list of my preview:.
- the end is at hand.
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cappytan
Welcome to the 2015 "Kool-Aid is Delicious" regional convention....Three days of programming has been prepared for you. On Sunday, after the session, a reception will be held on the arena floor with refreshments for all. Are you not pleased?