Science vs Creationists. This site puts the processes of debate in print.
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/yec1.htm
I thought of how I used to debate with householders. -J
Edited by - happysunshine on 15 October 2002 3:43:49
science vs creationists.
this site puts the processes of debate in print.
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/yec1.htm.
Science vs Creationists. This site puts the processes of debate in print.
http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/yec1.htm
I thought of how I used to debate with householders. -J
Edited by - happysunshine on 15 October 2002 3:43:49
any success stories about getting family/friends out of the wts?.
also, what happened to people after they left?.
any info would be of great help.
Any success stories about getting family/friends out of the WTS?
Also, what happened to people after they left?
Any info would be of great help. -J
afraid of armagedon?
read this!.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/
excellent points all. Take one example, the Mormons. I undersatnd that at least some have a movement claiming Smith never endorsed polygamy, among other things. Attempting to re-write history. I wonder where else this occurs...
afraid of armagedon?
read this!.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/
Afraid of Armagedon? Read this!
i'm going to approach my family about the witnesses.
i may only get one shot at this, so it'll have to be good.
something short, fast, and effective, but with the possibility of further growth.
Thanks for taking the time to post responses guys! I apreciate it.
I know what you're saying about shaking someones boat. It rarely goes over well. And its important to look at the big picture. You don't want to win the battle, but lose the war.
I've basically taken that position until now. I believe a couple of things have led to my recent change of heart.
One is the time factor. Mom and dad may not have much time left. I would love to fully explain to them why I did what I did. I'd also like to have an open repore about why they chose the JWs in the first place, see if we can compare notes, or at least be at peace about the difficult life they chose for the family.
Another reason is the future. I know they were a major influence on us kids and the direction our lives have taken. I believe our concept of the Witnesses is closely tied up with them. Once they are gone, I fear that only a kind of rock-hard 'folklore' will be left. Any chance at having them influence the rest of the family with a frank discussion, not a WT filtered version, will pass. The family seems to be gradualy drifting apart. I can only imagine what my nephews are being taught about me at meetings.
A third reason is my peace of mind. I've noticed some negative things in myself that must have sprung from my family and being a Witness. I feel like getting to the bottom of it includes having an open discussion with my family.
Finally, the more research I do on sites like this, the more concerned I get and the more I want to get them out.
i've added the australian "silent witnesses" programme to the media files on the site.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/media.asp.
this is a very powerful programme !.
the sound is a bit low so i'll have another go at encoding it better.
Wow. That was hard to watch. I had tears of anger after Simon's story.
i'm going to approach my family about the witnesses.
i may only get one shot at this, so it'll have to be good.
something short, fast, and effective, but with the possibility of further growth.
I'm going to approach my family about the Witnesses. I may only get one shot at this, so it'll have to be good. Something short, fast, and effective, but with the possibility of further growth. Any ideas?
The demographic: 2 elderly parents, 50 years as witnesses, including missionary work. Older brother and sisiter, dyed in the wool witnesses, now married with kids.
Me: Was good witness 'till I just walked away from it all 7 years ago, which of course required dropping all family ties.
They respect me now, but I don't know what will happen when I start to get into Witness stuff. I don't have much time to come up with something, so I thought I'd appeal to The Board for input. Any ideas/experiences? -J
the 21-year-old american captured her eighth tournament victory of 2002, one more than her older sister venus.
serena already took her sister's wimbledon and u.s. open crowns, as well as the french open championship - all coming over venus..
"i am very happy to have won my eighth title this year," serena said.
So whats the deal? Are they baptised? In good standing? While we're here, what about Prince? I gotta know!
the first crusade is launched by pope urban ii.
his goal is to aid byzantine christians in driving the seldjuk turks from asia minor, in the (futile) hope that the eastern church would acknowledge the supremacy of rome and christendom would be united.
the poor were particularly susceptible to the pope's call for an army.
Old Happysunshine munching on root in the rain ;-)
the first crusade is launched by pope urban ii.
his goal is to aid byzantine christians in driving the seldjuk turks from asia minor, in the (futile) hope that the eastern church would acknowledge the supremacy of rome and christendom would be united.
the poor were particularly susceptible to the pope's call for an army.
hmmm... good points. Now that you mention it, I do remember living off wild roots and grasses from time to time, and heard about the occasional Do-Not-Call-roasted-corpse break. Nice correlation gopher.