Posts by will-be-apostate

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Is There Anything About The Witnesses That You Like?

by minimus in

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anything??

?.

will-be-apostate

+Island Man: I agree on that. The WT knows a thing or two about organizing events, then so does Kim Jong-un...

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Inventor of MRI is a creationist? I'm shocked beyond measure

by will-be-apostate in

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i'm watching the bill nye vs. ken ham debate.

there is this scientist (raymond vahan damadian) referred by ken who invented the mri.

raymond says he's a young earth creationist, that he beleives the earth was created on six 24 hours long days.. how can somebody that smart completely ignore all the evidences that proves that the biblical view of earth's origin is wrong?.

will-be-apostate

He has invented - or is associated with the invention of (I didn't bother reading his biography yet) - a medical equipment that saves lots of lots of lives. No wonder he gives no sh*t to what other scientists may think about him, after all he has contributed to the mankind.

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Who Really Is Going To Pay For The Child Molestation Lawsuits The Watchtower Corporation Looses In Court?

by frankiespeakin in

i bet we see lots and lots of kingdom hall and branch propereties going to the auction block to make up the losses.

expect more and more pleas from the faithful slave for more and more donations in the future as the magazine selling business continues to post lots of losses with no end in sight and child molestation lawsuits must be paid.

the governing body or corporate ceos have their bottom line which is generate cash flow in a positive direction, by hook or by crook.. the faithful slave auction block:.

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I hope the jw community finds out what is the real reason behind the GB begging for money.

Answering the question: I think they will make the lawsuits last as long as possible, but obviously they will pay and if the WT pays our brainwashed relatives and friends pay too :(

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Inventor of MRI is a creationist? I'm shocked beyond measure

by will-be-apostate in

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friends

i'm watching the bill nye vs. ken ham debate.

there is this scientist (raymond vahan damadian) referred by ken who invented the mri.

raymond says he's a young earth creationist, that he beleives the earth was created on six 24 hours long days.. how can somebody that smart completely ignore all the evidences that proves that the biblical view of earth's origin is wrong?.

will-be-apostate

I'm watching the Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham debate. There is this scientist (Raymond Vahan Damadian) referred by Ken who invented the MRI. Raymond says he's a young earth creationist, that he beleives the Earth was created on six 24 hours long days.

How can somebody that smart completely ignore all the evidences that proves that the biblical view of Earth's origin is wrong?

And what's this thing with presenting all these creatinist scientists anyway? Is that the way Ken hopes to earn credit and trust in his words?

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Old Testament's God Is Not The God of Love - How Do You Prove it?

by will-be-apostate in

i was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: if psalms says.

" the lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.

" (new international version).

will-be-apostate

Thank you guys for your replies. I found this video on, it is related to the subject being discussed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-hGFMBpbI

There are lots of other videos on that channel that are worth seeing.

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Old Testament's God Is Not The God of Love - How Do You Prove it?

by will-be-apostate in

i was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: if psalms says.

" the lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.

" (new international version).

will-be-apostate

Uh, that's a lot of pages. I'm on the 5th page now. Thank you for the link. There are some very useful reasonings in that thread.

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Disfellowshipped Memorial partakers

by JustVisting in

just wondering if the attendants are instructed not to "count" known df'd memorial partakers.

who sincerely partake of the emblems, considering the unsettling increase in partakers of late.. just asking.

will-be-apostate

RubaDub, that is hilarious. What is the biblical account to back up that, if I may ask?

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2014-03-29 BOE CONFIDENTIALS PDF Adjustment to financing Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide

by WatchTower87 in

2014-03-29 adjustment to financing kingdom hall and assembly hall construction worldwide.

pdf version: http://adf.ly/juxnc.

instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

will-be-apostate

Stupid question: Why do they tell the elders to destroy the letter that was sent in 2009?

The December 7, 2009, letter to all congregations should be removed from the congregation permanent file of policy letters and be destroyed.

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Old Testament's God Is Not The God of Love - How Do You Prove it?

by will-be-apostate in

i was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: if psalms says.

" the lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.

" (new international version).

will-be-apostate

Thanks cofty, that would be great.

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Old Testament's God Is Not The God of Love - How Do You Prove it?

by will-be-apostate in

i was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: if psalms says.

" the lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.

" (new international version).

will-be-apostate

I was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: If Psalms says

" The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion." (New International Version)

shouldn't we apply the same principle to the Old Testament, as it's clear that is full with violence, adultery, and all sorts of things we are not supposed to read or watch otherwise.

I also told him about Richard Dawkins' opinion on the OT God which summerizes up my thoughts on the subject pretty well.

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.Basically what I want is answers, proofs that I could present him, because he said we would continue the debate in the near future.

You all know the jw defense mechanism and how they have got answers for any questions and backdoors. I'll apprciate your help. Here are his main points:

The tribes from canaan were wicked beyond measure therefore they deserved to be massacred. Wasn't this a rightfull act?
If we grab out specific details from the context surely Dawkins' opinion reflects the truth. Then he called him - based on the same principle - "superficial, arrogant, full with prejudices, lacking logical competence and plagiarizes because he steals other's view on the subject.
Why would such a cruel god spare anyone?

And his final argument:

The Bible is written the way it is so that those without deep interest to understand it won't understand its real meanig.

I think there is a slight possiblity that he'll tell about me to the elders. His words are the poorest arguments I've evere seen; I only mentioned them because I want you to see the whole picture. I know that a lot of you have much more experience in debates like this then I have.

So, how do you prove that the Old Testament's God is not the god of love?