Posts by will-be-apostate

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First post

by thedog1 in

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this is a very strange thing for me to do.

i have been an active witness for over 25 years.

i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.

Welcome to the forum thedog1. The upcoming months might will be very difficult. I know how you would like to tell everybody about what you have found out and to help them but at this stage what you have to do is to do nothing but learn more about the evidences that show this organization is not what it claims to be. 25 years is a long time, being an elder I assume your whole life was around doing God's will. We are here 24/7 to help you in this process. As an elder you know that you have to keep quite. Maybe you can help your family. Do you have kids? Just do me a favor: if they are not baptized yet promis me you won't help them on their way to the pool. Do anything that you can to raise them up normally. Let them hang out with their schoolmates, let them socialize. Thank you.

my best wishes, wba

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Are Most of the Witnesses That You Know Of Die Hard JWs?

by minimus in

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i think the remaining ones left are kool-aid drinkers and virtually brain dead..

will-be-apostate

So according to google translate knacker is a person who skin (or flay, not sure which one they use) dead animals.

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Are Most of the Witnesses That You Know Of Die Hard JWs?

by minimus in

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i think the remaining ones left are kool-aid drinkers and virtually brain dead..

will-be-apostate

I also know some that are very die hard jws when it is about manners and morality but in the meantime they go out in field service like 1 times a month. This is a deffinition of hypocrizy, I think.

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How jw parents do their best to make their some feel guilt

by will-be-apostate in

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i've got a 6 years old brother who recently expressed his concerns about my spirituality.

he said that he had a dream about me being dead (i am at college, far away from my parents).

he also told my parents that he was afraid i would no longer be a jw and in that case he wouldn't hug me again anymore; and that he was crying and felt very sad.. my dad called me today and told me all this and more.

will-be-apostate

Xanthippe and Comatose - it is very comforting to know that :) Thank you for your support

Black Sheep - I like that kind of reasoning. I've noticed recently that even if I don't believe in the "truth" anymore, it is hard for me to express my piont or to prove them wrong. My grandmother told me that when they built their house back in the '70s they didn't use quality materials because they thought that Armageddon was coming in '75. My parents know about this too. No need to say they have backup proof for every doubt.

Julia Orwell and stillin - Thank you for the advices. That is what I will try to do. I'd like to make his childhood better even if the cult will most likely make him live in fear and rejection.

KateWild - I'm happy for you and your daughter :) Many would like to have a mom like you from this point of view.

The Searcher - That is a question I asked my father and some elders, mss too. The essence of the answer: "The bible doesn't forbid higher education just like it doesn't forbid consuming cigarettes and drugs" What a comparison! (irony)

Bruja-del-Sol - I hope your sister and parents will realize one day what they missed and come to know the truth about the truth.

Thanks to all of you for your uplifting and comforting replies. I talked with my little bro on phone and assured him about my love and care. I also told him that I didn't come to college to earn much money but to have a job that I like doing.

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How jw parents do their best to make their some feel guilt

by will-be-apostate in

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i've got a 6 years old brother who recently expressed his concerns about my spirituality.

he said that he had a dream about me being dead (i am at college, far away from my parents).

he also told my parents that he was afraid i would no longer be a jw and in that case he wouldn't hug me again anymore; and that he was crying and felt very sad.. my dad called me today and told me all this and more.

will-be-apostate

I mintyped the title: How jw parents do their best to make their son feel guilty

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How jw parents do their best to make their some feel guilt

by will-be-apostate in

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friends

i've got a 6 years old brother who recently expressed his concerns about my spirituality.

he said that he had a dream about me being dead (i am at college, far away from my parents).

he also told my parents that he was afraid i would no longer be a jw and in that case he wouldn't hug me again anymore; and that he was crying and felt very sad.. my dad called me today and told me all this and more.

will-be-apostate

I've got a 6 years old brother who recently expressed his concerns about my spirituality. He said that he had a dream about me being dead (i am at college, far away from my parents). He also told my parents that he was afraid I would no longer be a jw and in that case he wouldn't hug me again anymore; and that he was crying and felt very sad.

My dad called me today and told me all this and more. He made sure to use a that "my son, please come back to jehovah" voice tone. My brother asked him why I left home and their reply: He (I) wants to earn much money.

I know him, he just loves me very much, but sadly the indoctrination process has already started and is doing a very good job; he is just 6 for the love of god. This is the most evil thing I've encountered so far that was done to me. My grandma is really just a noobie in comparison with them.

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Honest survey question on effectiveness of 'apostacy'

by Simon in

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it seems like lots of people have big dreams of 'destroying the watchtower'.

it's usually linked to a story of how they were wronged and want some revenge.

do these 'in your face' attempts to convince people that the truth isn't the truth really have an effect?.

will-be-apostate

I had my own "let's make this org dissappear from history" post. I didn't give up my plans, just have got more important things to do. But i would happily help if anyone is starting a big project

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Anyone else fake it?

by braincleaned in

when i got baptized in 1972 (13 years old) it was under the "lamp" book.. .

when asked the 2 questions standing up, i did not say "yes!

" i got immersed, but never dedicated my life to jehovah.. (not in prayer, not vocally hated the way i was imposed on i was a kid for christ's sake!).

will-be-apostate

My friend once told me his wife has been faking it since their first time. They've been married for 3 years now.

Ok, seriusly now. I didn't. I said it loud. My grandma called me today, it was just her weekly routine to make sure his lovely grandchild loves the Big Blue Sky, beacause "we were the one who chosed Jehovah, we said here we are to do your will".

How can they think that a 14 years old will make a decision that he will not regret years later? So evil, so insane

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Shooting stars at end of JW video about New Tuxedo HQ

by scotoma in

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the videos on jw.org are nauseatingly corporate and propagandistic.. the smiling blondes that are showcased - the big executives sitting at their thrones (authoritative.

desks).

the workers clad in their orange safety uniforms like so many worker bees in a hive.. the word "love" used over and over again.

will-be-apostate

Can you give us the link to the video with the shooting star scene?

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I think I need someone to give me a history lesson about this site

by will-be-apostate in

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"this doesn't mean of course that i will allow posts of an obvious apostate nature or those that are abusive.

" - simon.

now this was 12 years ago.

will-be-apostate

I wonder how many people left the org or at least learned the truth about the truth from this community. It was a pleasure to read the story. Only one question is left: Which username belongs to Ang?