The academic consensus is that Jesus of Nazareth was a historical person.
The supernatural aspect of his life is a matter of religious faith.
Dr. Bart Denton Ehrman is a good reference for that if you want more details.
is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
The academic consensus is that Jesus of Nazareth was a historical person.
The supernatural aspect of his life is a matter of religious faith.
Dr. Bart Denton Ehrman is a good reference for that if you want more details.
if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.
i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.
now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..
It's not a total loss.
Avoid the total loss thinking.
as i read the ray franz books a couple years ago, he mentioned several things that i had personal knowledge of.
this really gave a ring of truth to everything he wrote, even if there were some things that couldn't be verified.
one thing was the idea that some of the gb thought sputnik was a signicant event marking the last days.
Perhaps we are swimming in angels and demons in some kind of metaphysical soup that we do not understand.
The system is going medieval. The Watchtower is a product of the industrial revolution (see Rutherford's locomotive and Schroeder's Sputnik), and for some reason, it is the very prophet of the end of the world of the industrial era.
The industrial era is being dismantled for an era that can be considered neo-feudal.
So spoke the Oracle of the Lord!
a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
Truth is always painful. I don't want to be happy, I want to know.
i may have put this in the wrong thread.
if so, i'm sorry.. my conundrum is this.... i am almost completely certain that an awake back in the 80's/90's mentioned a group of rock bands we shouldn't listen to and i seem to remember them actually naming guns and roses.. i can't find anything now, and i'm wondering if it's the mandela effect, or if it's another case of the cdrom versions of the awakes being doctored again.. does anyone else remember this?
or am i crazy?
I remember Deicide.
what do you guys think....the topic seems to being on fashion lately.
some in the borg told me one time "of course, they are for real, they could be angels, demons".. .
Humans from the future. Humans from the future can be from other planets (extraterrestrial hypotheses) and they travel through several dimensions (interdimensional hypotheses). Something like the Dune universe, (artificially) evolved humans all over the place.
two years before i left jw world i came to a strange conclusion about the jw cosmology and the free will doctrine.. basically i came to conclusion that satan is right about the universal sovereign issue.
and i came with that just only using jws premises, no outside apostasy.
i just told to my sister what she thought about it, and she said to me: dont tell anyone about this!.
Interesting.
the latest video release 4/4/22 (lesson 44 'don't give up') in the comic series of caleb & sophia just got weirder.
the plot is about caleb & sophia preaching door to door, caleb with his father and sophia with her mother.
it shows each of them having doors slammed on them four times.
Worst nightmare of every JW kid.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
You can extract any "truth" from the Bible using the Watchtower method (pick and choose).
in today's wt "study, "merci" a lot of gaslighting.
on one hand: you will be judged the way you are judging, but twice "david" is seen as needlessly killing or intending to kill people for minor transgression, .
1) getting ready to kill nabel, all males not paying his extortion fees, and .
He can be gay as well. No worries about David.