Thanks for the good report. - Vanderhoven7
"As cold water upon a tired soul, so is a good report from a distant land." - Proverbs 25:25 NWT Revised 1984
the kingdom hall is still empty.
even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.
the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.
Thanks for the good report. - Vanderhoven7
"As cold water upon a tired soul, so is a good report from a distant land." - Proverbs 25:25 NWT Revised 1984
This reminds me of when Nathan Knorr wanted to get married. All of the sudden the rules changed on Bethelites getting married. Apparently, old Jeff wanted a beard and since he is one of the ones in charge...magically beards are now ok! Isn't Jehovah wonderful as he has now dignified Jeff's choice of grooming. Jehovah's Witnesses : A religion run by FAKERS, FOOLS, FRAUDS and FUCK-UPS!
"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.
sounded good.. what is the reality?
how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.
I have 5 siblings, all of us raised as Witnesses. Only one is marginally active. I am the youngest at 68. My oldest sister lives on JUST Social Security and Medicaid (lives with me), the next oldest is married, she and her husband own their own home, have some IRA'S and both collect Social Security and work part time to keep busy. Next is my brother who lives in government subsidized housing, gets minimal Social Security, has Medicaid and receives food stamps. My third oldest sister gets minimal Social Security, rental assistance, foods stamps and Medicaid. And last but not least is my 4th sister. She receives minimal Social Security and Medicaid (also lives with me). And me? I got some excellent advice from a gentleman that I took on tour when I was a Bethelite at Watchtower Farms back in the mid '70's. To make a long story short, he advised me NOT to put too much stock in Watchtower's gloom and doom scenario. He was a Bethelite in the 1940's and said that they were preaching about Armageddon daily at Bethel back then. 'If you don't look out for yourself, they certainly aren't going to', he told me. I semi-retired from my own business at 43 and now have assets in the top 10% of Americans as well as a very healthy Social Security payment. I know where my next meal is coming from! At any rate, one of my friends became a Circuit Overseer (the road I was slated to take) and he is now 'retired' without ANYTHING to fall back on. Jehovah's Witnesses leadership single handedly created an entire generation of very poor people because of their useless financial advice!
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"It's not who you know...it's who you 'nose..."
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The current Governing Body is a joke. It is now comprised of post 1935 'anointed remnant', many of whom are younger than me (I'm 68). In the early 1970's Nathan Knorr railed against the idea of 'younger anointed ones', especially at Bethel. Anyone who attended the dedication of the assembly hall in Natick Massachusetts can recall Knorr carrying on that THERE ARE NO NEW REMNANT! And yet here we are over 50 years later and his beloved religion is run by all so-called NEW REMNANT most of whom are Bethelites. So it seems that what we have here with the Governing Body is almost a case of apostolic succession where new members of the Governing Body are chosen from among their own kind. As an interesting side note, Fred Franz did not believe that the Faithful Slave Class was a small group of men separated from other anointed Christians. On page 338 of GOD'S KINGDOM OF A THOUSAND YEARS HAS APPROACHED it says: " This limiting the "slave" to the twelve apostles, however, might allow for the doctrine of an apostolic succession or an episcopal succession, a succession of bishops (overseers) by the religious process of ordination. 16 However, when we view the 'faithful and discreet slave" as being the whole body of disciples (including spiritual overseers) , it eliminates such a thing as "episcopal succession" that history shows has worked such harm and oppression in Christendom."
did they hope that everybody who read the1969 awake as a kid is too senile to remember?.
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Please NEVER stop talking about the 1969 Awake article. It messed up many young peoples lives, some of whom are posting here now. Exposing Jehovah's Witnesses past lies could possibly save some current young people from falling for their propaganda and making poor life choices. A lie is a lie no matter when it was written or whom it was written by...dead or alive.
fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.
many of the comments are hilarious.. .
a beard prediction for 2024:.
If women are going to stop shaving their legs and underarms, will Steve Lett soon announce that sporting a MERKIN is now a conscience matter?
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
Perhaps the second house is for renal income for Tony and his wife? That way Watchtower doesn't have to directly support them and they keep any financial transactions at 'arms length'.
recent news about beards is getting lots of attention.
it made me wonder if any guys will return to the church under the impression that 'so much has changed'.
back when, i knew a couple guys who were outspoken about beards, seeing it as an issue, and was never terribly moved by their viewpoint.
No I would not go back. If these things changed 50 years ago I'd think about it. Too many segments of my life have been ruined because of association with this religion since my childhood. (Born in essentially) At 68 years old, all I have to say is FUCK EM.