Posts by DisgruntledFool

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What Theme Song Should Be Played When You Walk Into a Room?

by Sea Breeze in

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this could fun.

what song should be played when you walk into a room that best describes you?

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DisgruntledFool

OLD MAN by Neil Young. I'll be 70 this year.

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Footage from Recently Converted Kingdom Hall to a Mosque

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/kjqwfeuhpji?si=6ahbituygdyiq3za.

when jehovah’s witnesses dedicate their kingdom halls, they often refer to the example of solomon dedicating the temple in jerusalem.

it’s a solemn moment.

Average Joe Witness can't work on a building (church, mosque, temple etc.) owned by 'Babylon the Great' so that he can make a living, feed his family, afford to go out in service preaching the 'good news' and probably make a donation to the 'Worldwide Work'.

However, The Governing Body can sell a Kingdom Hall to 'Babylon the Great' and use the funds to further the "World Wide' work.

Makes perfect sense to me.

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GB Update - Meet the new GB members

by eyeslice in

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i overheard my wife listening to '2023 governing body update #2, presented by kenneth cook jnr.

a few points i got from it.. new hour requirements.

quote "with the new hour requirements for pioneers, many us us can share in the pioneer work.

DisgruntledFool

"There are NO new Remnant!" - Nathan H. Knorr died June 8, 1977

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"Yahweh" pronunciation is more correct (w60 8/1 pp. 453-455)

by psyco in

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https://wol.jw.borg/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1960561 (substitute .borg with .org)furthermore, today in every jw publication the tetragrammaton is rendered as yhwh which is more preserved by yahweh than by jehovah..

DisgruntledFool

I am waiting for 'New Light' admitting that El Kabong was the True God all along!

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WATCHTOWER IS WATERING DOWN BEDROOM SURVEILLANCE?

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/hwzly3fnpdo?si=0p8zd0_9a-lwtb_9.

the study article 2 from the january 2025 watchtower study edition titled “husbands, honor your wife” represents a marked shift from the earlier, stricter watchtower stance on marital intimacy among jehovah’s witnesses.

this article’s language feels more relaxed, with paragraph 17 and its footnote stating, “the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

DisgruntledFool

It is now officially in writing. The Elders can no longer give a 'tongue lashing' to married couples engaged in sexual foreplay that they themselves might disapprove of.

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Elder's manual or similar from early to mid 1960s re sexual abuse issue

by Lee Marsh in

i am looking for any information given to elders during the early to mid 1960s on how to deal with child sexual abuse within the congregation.

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it could be in letters or in some version of an elder's handbook or a letter to the elders that specifies how elder were to deal with the issue of sexual abuse within the congregation; not going to elders, silence about the issue, how to handle it with the minor and the accused.. if there was any direction to the elders that precedes this time period that would work too..

DisgruntledFool

I'd be interested in that, also. My mother brought a family into the religion in the early 1960's and it was an open secret that the father was molesting his oldest daughter. He was never disfellowshipped or reproved and could go out in service and be involved in the ministry school.

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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

by neat blue dog in

he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

DisgruntledFool

Flip the narrative. What if the woman in the relationship craves cunnilingus and/or fellatio? Nothing in the article approaches the subject from her perspective. Typical male dominated myopic theocratic Watchtower reasoning. Most men, especially religious ones, are loathe to admit that some women have a higher and stronger sex drive than they do and if given the chance she could 'wring her husband out like a washtowel' and come right back for more.

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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

by neat blue dog in

he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

DisgruntledFool

Beards, cunning linguists and tossed salad...WOW. There is going to be a lot of smirks, smiles and contented, knowing looks at the Morning Worship tables at Bethels around the world coming from both men and women!

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NEW LIGHT ON THE 144,000 EXPLAINED

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/heulwyd00ku?si=9az0zrsquy67v74g.

the watchtower’s approach to "new light" is, frankly, a masterclass in manipulation.

when they introduce a new interpretation or change their teachings, it's presented as a revelation, showcasing just how guided and spiritually in-tune the governing body is.

DisgruntledFool

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses has no respect for their flock and seems to take them as a bunch of idiots and stooges. Jackson knows full well what the teaching about the Anointed was in the past. "the remaining members of the anointed remnant of Christ's followers were gathered in, particularly until 1931-1935." -The WATCHTOWER March 1, 1968 pg 147. As Nathan Knorr was fond of saying in the last years of his life :"THERE ARE NO NEW REMNANT!" The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is made up of FAKERS, FOOLS, FRAUDS AND FUCKUPS. Thus it has always been, thus it shall always be.

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"Brother Jodie jenelle began his bethel service in in 1990....."

by nowwhat? in

but what they don't say he left started and ran a real estate company and a global real estate consulting firm and apparently after making a fortune come back to bethel a few years ago.

how in the hell could a non lifer now be anointed and appointed to be a gb member.

sure can't be for his spiritual qualifications!.

DisgruntledFool

Blondie, I asked myself that exact question. "The history of Jehovah's organized people today shows that, particularly since 1879, the organization's visible governing body has been connected with or identified with the legal corporation, the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, incorporated in the State of Pennsylvania in the year 1884. This legal corporation has its principle publishing house and Branch office in Brooklyn, New York, now. It is merely a legal servant and a publishing agency for the earth-wide society of Jehovah's anointed remnant." - The WATCHTOWER December 1, 1947 pg 363. So the BUSINESS end of the religion was run by the governing body of its day. (Anyone with any long history with this organization knows that the theological interpretations promoted by Jehovah's Witnesses have been limited to a few individuals such as Russell, Rutherford and Franz and that any so-called governing body members had little input into Bible interpretation and the creation of doctrine and dogma.) And then, as you point out, in 1971 things changed organizationally with the separation of the legal corporation from the newly minted Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. The Governing Body since 1971 has been focused on 'spiritual things' while the day to day business operations were handed over to others. Now with the appointment of Jody Jenelle to the Governing Body it seems possible that they will be comingling the theological and business aspects of the religion so they can have complete control of the 'spiritual' and secular arms of the religion.