The organization has extra biblical rules it piles on to its adherents.
For example, where in the Bible does it say you have to have a certain number of hours in field service to qualify as a ministerial servant? There are many more examples.
hi does anyone know why you're classed as not in good standing if youve separated when you aren't breaking a commandment by being separated.
1 cor 7:11 - but if she does separate, let her remain unmarried or else be reconciled with her husband; and a husband should not leave his wife..
The organization has extra biblical rules it piles on to its adherents.
For example, where in the Bible does it say you have to have a certain number of hours in field service to qualify as a ministerial servant? There are many more examples.
i googled it and pretty much my understanding is the same as what i imagine.
no one really knows, your guess is as good as the next.
interesting thought to consider imo..
venus,
The OT is full of prophesies of Jesus, and that he would have to suffer that fate. The whole OT is a "shadow of the things to come". Each year, animals were sacrificed for atonement of sin. Jesus was the only sacrifice able to pay for the sins of all.
John 1:29
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
If you believe in the resurrection, the only way it's possible is because of Jesus' death and resurrection.
1 Cor 15:12-20
12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
i googled it and pretty much my understanding is the same as what i imagine.
no one really knows, your guess is as good as the next.
interesting thought to consider imo..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
No scholar worth their salt denies a man called Jesus was crucified over 2000 years ago under Pontius Pilate. You can disagree that he was a Divine being, you can disagree that he performed miracles, but you cannot deny that he was crucified.
i can't believe this is taking place in our country!
all across america there are areas where people are trying to enforce christian law!
outsiders are strictly forbidden from entering and they have private security and guards to keep people out.
what do you sincerely think?
do you nurture any hope?.
notsurewheretogo,
Nobody can convince anyone. I didn't believe because someone told me, I believe because I saw. You can't make an appeal to majority for truth, you know many hold erroneous beliefs.
Again, how do YOU arrive at truth? At some point you are trusting your senses, fallible as they may be.
what do you sincerely think?
do you nurture any hope?.
notsurewheretogo
How can you tell whatever experience you had was in fact "real"? Might it be "real" in your mind only?
How can you trust any of your senses, let alone prove your existence? There are many assumptions we take for granted in order for us to arrive to certain conclusions and beliefs.
If my experience with the shaman doing the egg cleaning, "limpia" in Spanish, was all in my head, then yes I belong in a mental institution. However, what I saw and heard was with my own eyes. I trust it wasn't a dream, and I trust it wasn't just me being crazy. I also trust the black ink that came out was no sleight of hand, same as the bubble over the yolk that looked like an eye. Those were eggs I BOUGHT at the store.
what do you sincerely think?
do you nurture any hope?.
nicolau
Interesting that you don't disclose what these "things" are.
I did, I will be happy to talk about my experiences, but you can read about some of mines and those of others here.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6318622471356416/spirit-channeling-wallkills-bethel?page=2
what do you sincerely think?
do you nurture any hope?.
I used to be an atheist. I've seen things that made me change my mind.
I believe Christ is risen. He will grant eternal life to all who believe in him.
look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.
now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.
Ok deegee, what do you mean by being a Christian after you left the WT?
I understand and feel your frustration. My line of reasoning after leaving the WT was the opposite. I became an atheist and a skeptic. I believed that materialism is all there is, that consciousness is a product of very complex chemical reactions and the summation of physical processes. I came to believe that anyone that had experienced any type of supernatural event was either crazy, misguided (they interpreted the event as supernatural when there was a perfectly natural explanation for it) or something else along those lines.
I figured that since this stuff never happened when put through to the rigorous scientific method or never happened under controlled lab conditions, that all accounts must therefore be false. I even wrote off an encounter I had as something I had experienced merely as an emotional reaction.
Regardless of our beliefs, I've come to the conclusion that there is more to reality than the physical. Based on what I've seen, heard, and felt, I can no longer suscribe to a strictly material universe.
look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.
now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.
I'm quoting this:
It was as just as well that I engaged in spiritism, use a Ouija board etc. since praying to God was of no use and yielded the same results of demonic attack which is also produced by being involved in these things (according to Christians).