Hey Rueben,
Did I know her? e-mail me.
i woman in mesa, arizona whom i've known for over 30 years recently died in her mobile home.
83 years old and too poor to afford the added electricity of air conditioning on her $500/month social security check, she was found dead in her chair with a fan blowing on her.
the elders said they didn't know.
Hey Rueben,
Did I know her? e-mail me.
many ancients including confucious and lao tzu took opposing views about this subject and their arguments are fascinating to read.
their arguments are nearly 2,500 years old.
the greeks also lively debated this question.. of course, as dubs (and in fact, in most christian faiths) we were taught that man was born inherently evil, and the quest is to overcome that and work towards the good.
I believe people are born good, and because of their environment choose evil, or what others perceive as evil.
Some people need help moving, and their friends choose not to help.
Evil or good?
...or, for those who haven't seen it before, some clarifying information.
if you're an old timer and you saw it before, perhaps you've just forgotten.. at any rate, i thought some of you might have some confusion--and perhaps irritation--put to rest by reviewing this.
scroll down to my post, please.. comf.
Everything in life doesn't take a commitment?
Name me one.
BTW, try not making your house payment next month, or if your rich and it's paid off, don't make your property taxes.
...or, for those who haven't seen it before, some clarifying information.
if you're an old timer and you saw it before, perhaps you've just forgotten.. at any rate, i thought some of you might have some confusion--and perhaps irritation--put to rest by reviewing this.
scroll down to my post, please.. comf.
Comf,
Your romantic weekend didn't go the way you wanted?
Poor Miata, all it ever wanted was an oil change every 3000 miles.
Everything in life takes a commitment, damn grass, quit growing! I mowed and weeded you once!
i have a 'loyal' witness relative suffering various watchtower-related trials, who, i believe, represents an emerging.
new form of jehovah's witness.
she seems to have a sort of 'spiritual schizophrenia'.
Umbiguitious,
I doubt you are 21 as your profile states. In reality you are probably 14 or so and hating the meetings and service and are on summer break from school.
I hope you read and learn, and learn the meaning of the big words you say.
And bye the way, Welcome!
i got married while i was a jw and have been married for 16 years.
the last 10 years have been totally loveless, and we have merely existed under the same roof, nothing more.
now that i've disassociated myself we have nothing in common at all.
You don't know anyone who has gone through a divorce???
Oh my, where do you live?
The last question is for every country has it's own laws.
edited cuz I said county instead of country
kate and i just had one of our frequent "patio" discussions...my, how she sparks my mind!
we've been watching some tapes that a friend gave us, about the origin of the bible and the similarities to (read "borrowed from") other ancient mythologies.
very interesting anthropological and sociological information, even showing the biblical connection to astrology (e.g.
Donkey,
I would say to heck with you, to heck with seven and give onacriose a Big Hug, but I can't.
So I really have to say how much I love all of you, and the fight we are in.
HUGS
kate and i just had one of our frequent "patio" discussions...my, how she sparks my mind!
we've been watching some tapes that a friend gave us, about the origin of the bible and the similarities to (read "borrowed from") other ancient mythologies.
very interesting anthropological and sociological information, even showing the biblical connection to astrology (e.g.
onacruise, great post!
Fear is what kept me into the witness world for 40 some years. Very sick that fear...knowing that someone who cut you off in traffic would soon be bird food. Knowing we were better than anyone! The whole world! Soon, we would take over the earth, never have to share or give anything, because we sat our butts in so many meetings and gave so much of who we were, could of been, our very souls.......
I have told a few people of my experiences with graveyards, ( one is a friend of yours ) I walked them for a few years, and thought, they had lives, and knew death was their future, If death is our future, get rid of Hell, heaven and everlasting life with the special ones..that is all the fear we have.
And who wants to live forever with the special ones?
Except having a loved one fall in death...the worst fear in the world..and the promise of seeing them again...the worst hope is to to sell literature so you can be with them again.
So, it all comes down to fear...I have done it all, all the fear...
I could die tomorrow and not care, as long as it is semi pain less...so death is not a fear.......and for all those graveyards I visited...AWESOME
I just hope someone puts on my tombstone.." .She loved people"
i have my reasons for not saying much on this thread and i really think the warning was put out there and it is up to you to trust jes,,,,,,,,someone you have known a long damn time, or someone who has already been deceptive.
i don't want to say anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, my reasons are very important to me and there may be some that may want to pm me about this , if i feel i can trust them , i will answer questions.
i will not answer some questions on this thread to protect a poster here whom i dont want to hurt , she is a sweet lady and he knows her well, i don't think she knows he is even on this forum.. you all know me,,,,,,,,,,, you know jes,,,,,,,,,,there is more to it than you think.
Stinky,
You have alot to say about everything...but nothing to back it up. So be quiet.
Bendrr, same as above, but I haven't read your other posts, but if your male........
Ok then,
I have met both Jesika and Lyin,
The two most upright people I have met on these boards. If they say there is a problem with a poster.........BELIEVE THEM.
I will not go into my history.......ok I will...I married someone from this board..the biggest nightmare/mistake of my life. He seemed genuine..wanting a answer...a way out.......
He toook me for alot.
I am in Jesika's and Lyin on this one.
Burn in hell Deacon
i just want to say, it's been a weird road.
i met so many of you a few years ago, some who were die hard witnesses.
( wink at 6of 9 ) .
Hey everyone,
No one really knows anyone on DB's, the insults I give, aren't really insults to me.
Who am I? Just a person raised in the Org. who was treated with bigotry, because I was female.
Most here don't know my race, and it doesn't really matter. I was almost killed by a English husband, do I hate the English? No.
The ones who really know me, know me. I have at times cried because I wish we could go back and be in the same congregation, we could share our thoughts and feelings, be one big happy family, like the hope I was raised with..and live forever in paradise. <sigh>
Oh well, life goes on...and I need to re-create me and my life.
Thanks Simon for this board, and I hope it goes on for a long long time, and continues to help others.
I am getting on with the work of life and living........YAY ME!
Love you all for a long long time.