Perhaps Kent may want to involve Motorola to find out exactly what is said at other elders meetings to discuss this?
Nowfree
news article on protesting jws from portugal: .
web link to actual article: .
>> http://jornal.publico.pt/publico/2002/01/20/sociedade/s08.html.
Perhaps Kent may want to involve Motorola to find out exactly what is said at other elders meetings to discuss this?
Nowfree
i'm a newbie and should have posted here.
please read my post to 'a new perspective'.
it took the entire elderbody (5 little men) 6 months to df me.
Hello Suscarra,
Sounds like you have been through a hell of a time!
But the good thing is you have your family out of the religion as well.
I have found that the witnesses will not get in contact with you after you stop attending meetings. Most of them purely out of fear of reprisals, even though individuals may be quite decent, they are frightened. Although quite a few of them are just downright nasty, and use the religion to provide themselves with a bit of power of people!
Enjoy reading the posts on this board.
Well done for leaving the religion!!
Nowfree
it was kind of fun yesterday when i was in line at the local coffee house.
a "sister" came up and stood in line right next to me.
now, my ex is df'd and i am probably "bad association", but technically they should not shun me because i never got dunked.
I get tired of the JWs piously ignoring me.
I am not DA or Df, but stopped attending meetings over a year ago. At that point a JW couple (wife is a nursing assistant - you'll see the point of that later on!) I got on really well with refused to see me in my house because I no longer attended meetings. I hadn't heard from them since.
Well last week, my little girl was in hospital. The sister casually strolled on to the ward and asked how my daughter was. The conversation went, EXACTLY, like this:
Sister: I heard * was in Hospital. How is she?
Me: You deigned to come and see me then?
Sister: How is *?
Me: You deigned to come and see me then? Even though you wouldn't see me in my own house?
Sister: We did explain to you why we couldn't see you.
Me: Goodbye.
At which point the sister, totally wrongfooted, didn't know what to do, just turned and went.
I REALLY enjoyed that conversation. I was the one in control. I was not going to be taken for a fool, and act as if I was grateful that she had actually condescended to talk to me!
This shunning thing can work both ways.
Nowfree
these letters will blow your mind!.
it's hard to beleive that one or two small-minded men in the service dept.
could be responsible for thousands of medical emergencies going bad or even death.
Dear Mr Jensen,
Thank you for your research into the blood doctrine that the Watchtower teaches.
My daughter has heart-lung problems, and because of this i started researching the doctrine. i found so many inconsistencies that i could not in all conscience stick to the Society's policy and refuse blood for my daughter.
My stand on this has caused incredible problems. My husband still believes in the Society, and sees nothing wrong in their stand on blood. He still believes they have never changed their minds about what is and isn't "acceptable" regarding fractions and components. Our marriage has now finished.
The way I see it is this: If the WT society was God's organisation on the earth, then they would get the information right the FIRST time. There would be no need for changes in policy, changes in direction, or any need for NEW LIGHT. The fact that they are continually changing policy is evidence enough for me that they are NOT Gods organisation on the earth.
Therefore they have no RIGHT to dictate and impose their own personal beliefs on others in such serious matters. This really does affect peoples LIVES.
Thank you for taking this issue up with the Society. I sincerely hope you do not suffer adversely because of your name appearing on the letters.
Please be reassured that there are thousands and thousands of people across the world, all ex-JWs, who feel the same as you do. You are not alone.
Thankyou.
Nowfree
these letters will blow your mind!.
it's hard to beleive that one or two small-minded men in the service dept.
could be responsible for thousands of medical emergencies going bad or even death.
Hawkaw: You say you are in touch with Jensen??
If so, is there any way you could get him to read this thread? If he is in for a tough time with his local elders AND the GB, then it may be good for him to know he is not alone in thinking the way he does.
Personally, I believe that all blood fractions and components should be used to save a persons life. Life is special, sacred, and all are responsible for doing our best to treasure it.
Nowfree
both should be up on my website tonight.
send to any press you may have contact with.. for immediate release:.
tuesday, january 22. contact:.
Has this information been sent to Stephen Bates at The Guardian in London, UK??
I know that someone on this board is in contact with Mr Bates. Although this new information is more centred on the USA, I am sure Mr Bates would love to keep this one on file for use at a later date?
I don't mean to pass the buck, but i have no idea how to get in contact with Stephen Bates/
Anyone??
Nowfree
kingdom ministry school for congregational elders.
for the 2002 service year .
hi folks!.
Well done Kent!!
Where was this Elders school held?
If I could listen to it, it may tell me, but my PC is yet to be configured so that the speakers work!! I have forwarded the email address to someone who has the luxury (!!) of a soundcard and speakers!!
Nowfree
these letters will blow your mind!.
it's hard to beleive that one or two small-minded men in the service dept.
could be responsible for thousands of medical emergencies going bad or even death.
Many thanks Randy!!
What planet are the Governing Body on? Or should i say what ARE the Governing Body on??!!
Do they not realise that they are messing with peoples LIVES?
btw - have you sent any of this info to AJWRB on Yahoo??
Nowfree
*** w80 10/15 31 questions from readers ***.
as indicated by an article on page 56 of u.s. news & world report of january 14, 1980, if you assume that 10 is the age at which an event creates a lasting impression on a persons memory, then there are today more than 13 million americans who have a recollection of world war i. and if the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the world war i generation.
however, the fact that their number is dwindling is one more indication that the conclusion of the system of things is moving fast toward its end.. the above is taken from a 1980 watchtower which said it would be highly improbable that we would see the turn of the century.. is it just me or are we all still here in 2002!!!!
I can't believe they were stupid enough to print something like that so soon after the 1975 fiasco!!
Ah well - what did we expect? Something intelligent?
Nowfree
i have heard today from 2 different sources that the wts has announced a global stop on all building work.
kingdom halls already being built are having the work on them stopped.. has anybody else heard this?
if it is true, what could be the reason.
I have heard that they proposed move of the UK headquarters to Milton Keynes has been stopped.
Not heard anything about Kingdom Halls though.
Sounds promising!!!
Nowfree