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  Glastonbury Festival 2002 this weekend just gone

  by invisible in

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  for those interested in music festivals and 'green matters' i'm providing these two links for you to gain perhaps a little more insight into british music culture and the underground arts scenes.. please browse.

  (glastonbury is the largest festival in europe).

  http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/2002/whatson.html.

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  Termite,

  You are kidding about the cess pits?

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  This is why I don't like transfusions.......

  by VioletAnai in

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  there's just too much risk...especially if your life is in the hands of these officials:.

  http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/story_34571.asp.

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  Violet

  What would you do if your child needed a blood transfusion - a child does not have the same volume of blood as an adult, and therefore to thin the blood sufficiently to prime a heart bypass machine (for example), would thin the blood too much.

  One solution the Society give is injection of erythropoetin. However, if you gave a child erythropoetin to increase the productino of red blood cells , the blood clotting factor would obviously rise and you risk the clot causing a blockage in the heart or brain.

  A child does not have sufficient volume to be able to transfuse and store blood for their own operation.

  I appreciate that in the USA the method of collecting blood is different from the UK. In the UK there is a higher chance of dying from playing football than there is if catching a disease from a blood transfusion, but then maybe our methods of screening and storage are far tighter.

  But then we are coming down to the reason behind WHY blood is being refused in the first place. For religious or personal beliefs. Believe me they are totally different. Especially when sitting in a paediatric cardiothoracic ward with a newborn baby with severe heart problems.

  Just my thoughts.

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  Watchtower Society no longer contact? Why?

  by GermanXJW in

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  i noticed that in september 2001 there was a change in the contact adress in the jw literature.. for example, awake!

  september 8th, 2001 says on page 5: would you welcome more information?

  write watch tower at the appropriate adress.

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  The secretary in each congregation will have a record card for each publisher containing the name, date of birth, date of baptism, and home address.

  So all that would have to happen at the GT is for a member of MI5 (or FBI) to break into the Secretary's home and steal the records. No computer hacking because the elders are instructed not to keep computer records. Data Protection Act and all that!

  One easy way to track down all JWs is to go to the KH on a Tuesday/Thursday/Sunday and you will find all the faithful lemmings sitting bored out of their brains AGAIN. Just follow each one home - you'll find where they live.

  Yes.. going back to the thought of making sure you pick up your mags at the KH or you and your family miss out on studying all that wonderful articles! What a shame that would have been!!!

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  Can You See The Similarities?

  by HadEnuf in

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  i have done a little research and reading over the years on the holocaust and what the jewish people went through when they were judged as unworthy as humans and so many innocents were exterminated in hitler's "final solution".

  i recently read this quote from a book about women in auschwitz and i couldn't help but see so many similarities between the way the jews were treated and how the witnesses treat those they feel are "rebellious" or causing division or whatever other accusations they can drum up against those they want to be rid of.

  i believe any of us who have been shunned by friends and families can relate to how eerily (spelling?

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  The way witnesses are told to treat ex-witnesses is very similar.

  Trouble is the Witnesses would never see it - they see themselves as being righteous, God's people on the earth. That is the hardest thing to try and break. Only when they do see the organisation in a different light will they ever realise how despicably they have treated other people.

  Still - their loss!

  You never experience true friendship until you leave the Watchtower society.

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  This is why I don't like transfusions.......

  by VioletAnai in

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  there's just too much risk...especially if your life is in the hands of these officials:.

  http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/story_34571.asp.

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  It is up to each individual in each set of circumstances to decide what is right for them or their child.

  Some people don't like taking antibiotics - fine. They are big enough, strong enough and ugly enough to fight whatever infection they have. Othertake them without a thought - fine. Yet others HAVE to take them otherwise what is a routine chest infection (for example) can very quickly lead to heart failure and potential death.

  As far as medical preference goes - it is the same with blood transfusions.

  But Witnesses will always point out that their refusal of blood is on RELIGIOUS grounds (see How can Blood Save your Life), nothing to do with medical grounds. So it wouldn't make one iota of difference if all blood were 100% safe ALL the time. Witnesses would not be allowed to accept it.

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  Who Will Be the Last To Die?

  by metatron in

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  this is a most amazing situation.

  i can't recall anything else like it in my.

  entire life.

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  I would like to bet that they don't make a big statement about taking a VERY pertinent chapter about the blood issue out of the new edition.

  They will sneakily try and gloss over any omissions! Otherwise they will be seen as bowing to influence!

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  Glastonbury Festival 2002 this weekend just gone

  by invisible in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those interested in music festivals and 'green matters' i'm providing these two links for you to gain perhaps a little more insight into british music culture and the underground arts scenes.. please browse.

  (glastonbury is the largest festival in europe).

  http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/2002/whatson.html.

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  I heard on Radio One this morning that next year they will be selling 20,000 more tickets because security/crowd control arrangements worked so well this year.

  I have never been to Glastonbury - not sure it is my sort of thing!

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  My mum is brainwashed by JW

  by walter_collins in

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  my name is walt collins, i'm a 23 guy in melbourne, australia, migrated from the uk 4 years ago.. i've been going through some pain lately, my mother (still in the .

  uk) and i have really had a rough period and she's decided to put .

  her religion before me and after many heated conversations, we are now no longer in contact.. .

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  Everyone seems to be hung up on the "gay" thing.

  I would like to bet that your mum would shun if you were straight, with a wife, two kids etc, but were NOT doing the following:

  1)Going to meetings

  2) Out in the ministry

  3) Attending conventions

  4) Kissing the butt of the local elders and Circuit Overseers

  5) and hailing the Governing Body as a miniGod!

  The only excuse JWs need to be able to self righteously shun a person is for that person to not believe in the Watchtower organisation. That is it. Nothing else!

  Your mum is just using it as an excuse. If you were straight, she would come up with another "reason" to shun you without even blinking!

  I may sound cynical, but then I was a JW for 20 years.

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  My mum is brainwashed by JW

  by walter_collins in

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  my name is walt collins, i'm a 23 guy in melbourne, australia, migrated from the uk 4 years ago.. i've been going through some pain lately, my mother (still in the .

  uk) and i have really had a rough period and she's decided to put .

  her religion before me and after many heated conversations, we are now no longer in contact.. .

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  Hi,

  It is a sad situation when the religion controls someone so much that they cannot even respect the decisions of their own family, put the differences to one side, and continue to have contact with those family members.

  Unfortunately this is not an isolated incidence.

  A JW is so controlled by the religion that they fear going against it, they become so brainwashed by it that they automatically assume they are always in the right because they are a JW. It doesn't matter what you say to them, how you try and reason with them, what questions you ask them, they will not budge.

  With the JW religion, they are taught, through their Watchtowers and other publications that they are Gods religion, therefore anybody saying anything against them is persecution, and should be expected. Anything or anyone that contradicts the teachings from the Watchtower are controlled by Satan, this includes the media.

  I tried for a long time to talk reasonably to a close family member who is a JW - they refused to get involved with social activities, or to keep their religion to the background ie put it to one side to allow family ties to continue. They were totally unable to do that - the religion had such an influence. All my attempts to compromise were thrown back in my face and I wasted a year of my life trying to negotiate peace!

  If I were you I would give the JWs hell. Don't stop what you are doing just because your mother is a mind controlling cult.

  Try not to let the situation depress you - focus on your own life, your own goals and ambitions.

  Let me know if you need any specific info on the organisation and its teachings on certain matters. i have all the ammunition!! I have fired it at quite a few people already - all with good results!!!!

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  The most stupid remark from "responsable b...

  by fulano in

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  the dr branch-coordinator at the annual missionary-meeting: .

  jehovah has to hurry with the chinese population if he wants to give them a change in armagedon.

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  Anglise:

  I think the rules sort of go like this:

  EVERYONE is supposed to faithfully follow EVERYTHING that is said from the platform, because the organisation is Gods channel for slopping out food at the proper time. If you don't do as you are told, you are counselled, discussed in elders meetings, counselled again, then probably disfellowshipped.

  However..... if what was said turns out to be somewhat mouldy, and you followed it to your detriment, then it was your OWN FAULT, you should have known better.

  They claim no responsibility for anything. Remember 1975 everyone?

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