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  GB Pierce - DEAD

  by Smiles in

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  announcement here:.

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  http://www.jw.org/en/news/headlines/?v=2552828400#mid702014108.

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  Socrateswannabe

  I appreciate that Data-Dog posted the link because it shows that JWN had this news long before the Dubs released it. Kind of "builds my faith" in JWN!
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  BOE: Kaboom to DOs

  by pixel in

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  to all congregations re: district overseers.

  dear brothers:.

  march 20, 2014. we are pleased to inform you of a significant decision made by the governing body that will affect the work of traveling overseers worldwide.

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  Why would they be "pleased" to inform us? Usually when a for-profit organization announces a round of layoffs or otherwise disrupts the lives of their employees, they at least make a pretense of regret that it has to be done. But these guys say they are "pleased".
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  The first step toward apostasy

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  "the first step toward apostasy is a drop in field service activity.

  i have read that statement in wts publications and heard it many times from the platform.

  i haven't studied philosphy so i'm not sure what type of logical fallacy this is an example of, but it is one for sure.

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  Problemaddict, thanks for explaining this as the "slippery slope" fallacy. I couldn't figure that one out myself but it sounds right.

  Moderators, how can I get the post from AlphaMan removed? I believe in freedom of speech but that is ridiculous. I don't believe that is quite up to JWN standards.
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  The first step toward apostasy

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
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  "the first step toward apostasy is a drop in field service activity.

  i have read that statement in wts publications and heard it many times from the platform.

  i haven't studied philosphy so i'm not sure what type of logical fallacy this is an example of, but it is one for sure.

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  Looks like I was following the WT policy of 'say whatever you want and no one will question it'! I looked in the WT Library and don't see any backing for my statement, although I'm sure I didn't just dream this. Maybe someone else can put their finger on a quote. Otherwise, I'm sure others have heard it from the platform as I know I have. I'll be more careful in my statments in future. The audience at JWN are not pushovers like the ones at the Kingdom Halls!
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  The first step toward apostasy

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
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  "the first step toward apostasy is a drop in field service activity.

  i have read that statement in wts publications and heard it many times from the platform.

  i haven't studied philosphy so i'm not sure what type of logical fallacy this is an example of, but it is one for sure.

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  "The first step toward apostasy is a drop in field service activity."

  I have read that statement in WTS publications and heard it many times from the platform. I haven't studied philosphy so I'm not sure what type of logical fallacy this is an example of, but it is one for sure. Once you learn TTATT, you naturally are less likely to want to share with others what you now know is a lie.
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  Where does the need to worship god come from?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  where does the need to worship god come from?.

  this is a question that i asked myself repeatedly when i used to believe that god exists.

  i struggled with this because i have never had the urge, and i imagined myself an ingrate because of it.

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  Thanks everyone! I'm interested in how this discussion is turning out. Thanks for the thought-provoking ideas.
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  Where does the need to worship god come from?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  where does the need to worship god come from?.

  this is a question that i asked myself repeatedly when i used to believe that god exists.

  i struggled with this because i have never had the urge, and i imagined myself an ingrate because of it.

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  Giordano and Snakeface, I agree that it made sense for ancient man, ignorant of most of what we now know, to feel the need to worship some unknown thing who was believed to be the cause of unexplained events and phenomena. But are you saying that that is now part of our genetic code--that it has survived inside of us for thousands or millions of years to still create the need to find answers through worship? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just questioning. And what of those like me and PaintedToeNail who do not feel this need? Are we freaks of nature?
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  Where does the need to worship god come from?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  where does the need to worship god come from?.

  this is a question that i asked myself repeatedly when i used to believe that god exists.

  i struggled with this because i have never had the urge, and i imagined myself an ingrate because of it.

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  Where does the need to worship god come from?

  This is a question that I asked myself repeatedly when I used to believe that god exists. I struggled with this because I have never had the urge, and I imagined myself an ingrate because of it. I’m no longer stressed out or guilted by my lack of interest in worship, but I would still like to know where the need for worship springs from. Is it simply gratitude, or is there something deeper? Perhaps you have an idea.
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  No more circuit assemblies

  by justmeok in

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  i heard from a reliable source that there will be no more 2 day assemblies, but instead 2 one days each year.

  anyone heard this yet?

  supposed to start new service year.

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  Blondie, I also was at the Rose Bowl in '63. Just a kid but I was there. The Nazis could have learned something from that kind of torture. Blistering heat and brutal sun punctuated by the occasional rain shower. And blah, blah, blah coming from the loudspeakers. Waterboarding is a vacation compared to that. JWs wouldn't have 100,000 actives at this point if they had kept that up.
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  Selective Statistics & extraordinary JW claims

  by Syme in

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  * a jw family leave their crops and livestock unattained to go to a convention.

  when they return, the crops and livestock are doing just fine.. * a desperate person is anxiously praying to god to give her a chance to know him.

  even before the prayer is concluded, two jws knock at her door.. * a pioneer prefers to take leave from her work in order to attend the pioneer school, even though she's sure she'll be fired.

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  Socrateswannabe

  Great topic Syme and I enjoyed your OP. It's amazing that JWs don't seem to think about the billions of prayers that go unanswered, for JWs and non-JWs alike. Even when it is a JW prayer and is "in accordance with Jehovah's will", what is the real percentage of prayers that are "answered"? Probably as mathematically close to zero as possible. And the ones that are "answered" are happenstance, as you have explained so well in your opening post. Why would a god who is powerful enough to have created the universe have any interest in the niggling problems that humans bring to him on a daily basis anyway? Yet when one of these prayers seem to have gotten god's attention, it's worthy of a few lines in a Watchtower publication!