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  Outcast Doctrines

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a recent post about the watchtower’s claim that all animals were created as vegetarians, one commenter said that watchtower could no longer sustain this belief so they simply stopped talking about it.

  i began thinking about other wacky doctrines and statements by the borg that have faded away.

  i’ll offer two of them below, but the complete list must be longer than your arm.. 7000 year-long creative days: watchtower once taught that each of the creative days was 7,000 years in duration, hence the hype leading up to 1975. they believed that year marked 6,000 years since adam’s creation, and oh how nicely the 1,000-year reign would fit as the last piece of the puzzle, thus completing the final “day”.

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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  Whatever happened to them??

  by jeffory1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just talking to someone recently about former co's in our area.

  it went as follows,,,,george cook,saw that he was now in princes congregation or should say the former prince.. brother gwaltney,,nw usa area now drives a school bus his wife sold cosmetics at a nordstrom.

  brother spangenberg had to leave co work as his wife was sick ,,went to low paying menial job.. brother ---- cant remember his name but he is now working a a waiter in a italian restaurant,,singing as requested by customers.

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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  Relaxed rules toward oral sex?

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  these people won't state anything definitively, but here's an excerpt from the study article entitled "making christian marriage a success", in the august, 2016 watchtower.

  it does make me wonder.. although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural, sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

  (song of solomon 1:2; 2:6) christian marriage partners should treat each other with tenderness.

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  Argument for JDubs or any Fundi's

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe:.

  1. man was created in 4026 bce.

  2. a global flood occurred in 2370 bce.

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  Christians made me stop believing in the Bible

  by jws in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm agnostic.

  there could be a god, but i don't believe it's the god described in the bible.i grew up a jw believing in the bible.

  after i left, i didn't want religion but was determined to be a christian on my own.. but things started to unravel.

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  The bOrg Cult Tactics

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm wondering if the borg actually studied mind control and coercion tactics deliberately or wether they just evolved over time through trial and error.

  from reading steve hassans books, studying hypnosis and methods psychopaths use it all seems very complex.

  like it would never occur to me to do a, b and c in the right order at the right time in order to get control of someone or control their lives.. for example, repetition of words (the word "loyalty" was a big one in the last convention), using loaded language, encouraging people not to trust their own thoughts, restricting their information, demonising those who leave etc.

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  This religion has a chance of survival

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws could survive as an organization due to one vital human need: recognition.

  for decades this religion glorified the older ones and really didn't do much for the younger folks, hence the younger people left in droves.

  if you're middle-aged or older, what was the average age of the elders in your congregation or your circuit overseer, as you were growing up?

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  Dress and grooming

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this is an old topic, but it came to mind again.... yes it is appropriate for people to dress neatly and respectfully for a dignified religious gathering, but why does it have to be a full suit with collared shirt and tie?.

  why does it have to be a full dress or skirt and jacket?.

  sure, we would find it distasteful for a person to arrive in swimwear or work overalls or other inappropriate attire, but why does it have to conform to strict standards?.

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