Marina, glad you liked it! I've been running that quote through my head for what...about 50 years...and I've never failed to laugh each time I think of it!
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What are your favourite movie lines/quotes????
by karter in''well there's one thing you got ta ask yourself punk....you felling lucky...well do ya punk".....clint eastwood dirty harry.. "it's life jim but not as we know it" capt kirk star treck..
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What are your favourite movie lines/quotes????
by karter in''well there's one thing you got ta ask yourself punk....you felling lucky...well do ya punk".....clint eastwood dirty harry.. "it's life jim but not as we know it" capt kirk star treck..
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Put...ze candle...back! ~ Young Frankenstein
You leave me little notes on my pillow. I told you a hundred-and-sixty-eight times I can't .. stand .. little notes on my pillow! 'We are all out of Corn Flakes. -F.U.' It took me three hours to figure out that 'F.U.' was Felix Unger! ~ The Odd Couple
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Books that changed your life-
by new hope and happiness ini am not much of a reader as i have two many distractions, but i fancy a challenging read, so please list any book that has changed your entire world view on everything.
i remember as a teenager buying at a yard sale, norman vincent peales " the power of positive thinking" and at the time that had a big impact on me.
but i am a little bit more in to " realistic positive thinking" now..
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To Kill a Mockingbird. Name me one character in the bible who has the moral fiber of Atticus Finch.
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Was Jehovah 40 years early
by Socrateswannabe inhere's a question for all you bible students out there, both critics and apologists: in 1513 bce the israelites were said to be in the wilderness, without food, so jeh gave them miraculous manna to eat.
exodus 16:35 says they ate it for 40 years.
the funny thing is that a year after they began eating manna, the bible book of leviticus, which wts says was written in 1512, records a mind-numbing litany of rules and regulations regarding sacrifices that were to be made at the tabernacle, which had just recently been put into use.
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Here's a question for all you bible students out there, both critics and apologists: In 1513 BCE the Israelites were said to be in the Wilderness, without food, so Jeh gave them miraculous manna to eat. Exodus 16:35 says they ate it for 40 years. The funny thing is that a year after they began eating manna, the bible book of Leviticus, which WTS says was written in 1512, records a mind-numbing litany of rules and regulations regarding sacrifices that were to be made at the tabernacle, which had just recently been put into use. What, according to Leviticus, were the Israelites to sacrifice? Their manna? Hardly! Among the foodstuffs to be offered up on the alter were bulls, sheep, goats, turtle doves, pigeons, grain, fine flour, oil, and bread. But all those goodies, according to Joshua 5:12, weren't available to them until they reached Canan, almost 40 years later! Was Jeh just wanting to make sure they were REALLY prepared, by giving them all these rules 40 years in advance?
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Why the Clean out of top Management
by Poztate init has been commented here that "soon" the do's will be history.
the co level will be "retired" at age 70 and the latest development was that the cobe can not serve after age 80. it would seem that there is a "cull" of top management.
in secular companys that would signal a radical change of directions ???.
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Ignoranceisbliss, I am also skeptical of conspiracy theories. Most of what has been posted here is possible, but I'm in favor of a simpler answer as well. 80 year old COBEs and 70 year old COs are not going to cut the muster anymore, in a world of streaming videos and electronic communications. The WTS has surprisingly embraced technology because it drops their operating costs like nothing else can, and these old guys are probably resistant to the technology or the Borg thinks they are not tech savvy enough to keep up even if they wanted to. The same goes for DOs since most of them seem to be pretty old. Plus with the DOs, someone at World HQ woke up one morning and had the brainstorm that the DOs job was completely superfluous. That was the easiest decision they ever made. All of these decisions have been made without considering the human element (the heartbreak of ending careers for people who have given their lives to a cause), but that's the way big corporations operate, whose only consideration is the bottom line.
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QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage
by wisdomfrombelow inthe article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
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Thank you Splash! I love it when someone compiles a list of the Society's doctrinal flip flops like you just did. How could anyone be so naive as to think these guys have the "truth"?
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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by pixel inhello, you read it here first!.
governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
to all congregations.
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Is it possible that this is another change based primarily upon finances? 110,000 congregations worldwide, averaging let's say 1 elder or ministerial servant appointment per year = 110,000 appointments to process. It's true that it is nothing more than a rubber stamp, but they do have to process the paperwork from the CO or congregation who submitted the recommendation, spit out a S-52 and a S-2 form to the congregation, and later mail a stamped copy of it to the congregation, and transfer the appointment to the database on jw.org. Worldwide maybe that doesn't require more than a few dozen people to handle all of this, but with this new "arrangement", the cost to the organization goes down to almost zero. The COs are already on the "payroll", so why not pile as much work on them as possible and make them earn those Buicks they drive?
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Watchtower Society vs. General Motors
by Socrateswannabe inwhat is the difference between the watchtower society and general motors?
even with its recent coverup of a deadly defect in the ignition system of one of its car models, gm may be more ethical and its leaders more scrupulous than the watchtower--at they lease they are no worse.
i don't see any difference in how the society is run than a major corporation anyway.
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What is the difference between the Watchtower Society and General Motors? Even with its recent coverup of a deadly defect in the ignition system of one of its car models, GM may be more ethical and its leaders more scrupulous than the Watchtower--at they lease they are no worse. I don't see any difference in how the Society is run than a major corporation anyway. On a corporate level it is all about results regardless of the price that people have to pay, and that trickles down on a congregation level. Your thoughts?
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This generation and a key weasel word
by Socrateswannabe inin this past sunday's watchtower lesson, which has been discussed at length on this board, the gb/writing committee used a key weasal word that we will probably see again.
the exact quote is: "we understand that in mentioning 'this generation,' jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.".
this goofy teaching is merely a patch until they can devise something more plausible, or until some event occurs that they can latch onto that will make this teaching more acceptable to the r&f.
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Yeah LG3, I agree with you (and the rest of the commentors on this post). When I first saw the "we love this teaching" quote on this board, I was skeptical as to whether it was legit. Then I went to jw.org a couple of weeks after the annual meeting that year, and lo and behold there was a video of Stephen Lett saying those very words as he rolled this mickey mouse teaching out for the crowd. Hell yeah they love it! It buys them 20 or 30 more years!
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This generation and a key weasel word
by Socrateswannabe inin this past sunday's watchtower lesson, which has been discussed at length on this board, the gb/writing committee used a key weasal word that we will probably see again.
the exact quote is: "we understand that in mentioning 'this generation,' jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.".
this goofy teaching is merely a patch until they can devise something more plausible, or until some event occurs that they can latch onto that will make this teaching more acceptable to the r&f.
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In this past Sunday's Watchtower lesson, which has been discussed at length on this board, the GB/Writing Committee used a key weasal word that we will probably see again. The exact quote is: "We UNDERSTAND that in mentioning 'this generation,' Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians."
This goofy teaching is merely a patch until they can devise something more plausible, or until some event occurs that they can latch onto that will make this teaching more acceptable to the R&F. I have no idea what that might be but my guess is that they just tossed up a hail mary pass to try to buy themselves more time. One of the GB--I believe it was Lett--in rolling this out said, "We LOVE this teaching!" In other words, "For the moment it suits our purposes perfectly!"
At some point we'll read that this was only their "understanding" and that they did not claim that it was divine inspiration, so now HERE is generation teaching number SIX, which is of course the REAL explanation of this text!