Peter called Lot a righteous man despite this criminal and obscene behavior. That, along with the ridiculous flood story, were two major factors that led me to understand, as freemindfade just said, the bible is a crock.
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"Lets imitate faithful Lot of old...."
by stuckinarut2 ini know we have all discussed at length the account / story of lot.... another thought occurred to me today...lets analyse his real personality,.
in the very beginning of the account, lot is shown to be a selfish man...one that chose the better land and area..... then he was opportunistic and materialistic and kept living in a nice city, even though he was supposedly shocked by the immorality and lawlessness..... then we see him to be cowardly when he decided to send out his daughters to be pack raped.. later we learn he was heartless as he allowed his wife to turn around and look, and didnt protect her from doing so.. then we know he was lacking in self control and allowed himself to get drunk...twice.. then we know he was dismissive and unrestrained and a general sicko when he had sex with his daughters...twice in a row!.
oh, but no...lets all praise him for being a righteous man.????!!!.
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Even if everything about the "truth" was all true...........
by pontoon ini will say that one of the most distasteful teachings for me is the idea of praising, thanking, worshiping, god every day for all eternity.
what kind of ego needs that?
like if i ever saved a person's life i would say buy me a bottle of scotch and we'll call it even.
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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?
by Village Idiot inwhen i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
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1. Still in for family but mentally out
2. No one in my congregation is overtly challenging JW beliefs, but many are zombies and seem to be going through the motions. That could be for any number of reasons and not necessarily because they've learned TTAT.
3. I have heard of a few people that I knew when I was younger who have joined other religions and I know of one who even started his own church. But I know of no one in my current congregation who seems so inclined.
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The "preaching work" is just laughable!
by cookiemaster inthe "preaching work" they're so eager to brag about is just laughable.
they say their number is an indication of god's blessing.
oh, please, give me a break!
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Please Welcome me
by Sofia Lose inhave lurked here for many, many years.
female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.
my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.
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Welcome! I too am stuck with this religion for many of the same reasons as you. It's liberating to know TTAT but it would be better to be out. Sometimes that's just not an option. I wish you the best. -
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Blood collection agency's novel approach to JWs and blood donation
by Marvin Shilmer intoday i added an article to my blog advertising a novel approach taken by a major blood collection agency that potentially taps a previously unthinkable source for blood product donation.. my article is titled american blood centers' approach to jehovah's witnesses donating blood.. we can only wonder how bethel fields calls steered from this source.
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Thank you for this, Marvin. So is this a policy that the HLC knows of and applies only under certain circumstances? I am familiar with the hardline policy that states that a person cannot store even his own blood for further use, much less donate it to someone else. I have never seen the distinction made that if it is to be used for fractions, it is permissible. I would like for this to be so. -
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Kissing hanks rear....
by _Morpheus ini havent seen this posted in a while and i think its really well done, so i share here now:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdp7pkecjvq.
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Thank you for posting this Morpheus. I haven't seen the video before but it's great. Very nice literal exposition of the fallacious reasoning used by religion in general and by JWs in particular. -
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Ayn Rand - Opinions?
by cappytan infor those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
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Mormon who runs website for doubting church members ousted
by Socrateswannabe inapologies if this has already been discussed on this forum:.
mormon who runs website for doubting church members ousted.
salt lake city (ap) a mormon man who gained notoriety over the past decade for running a website that offers doubting latter-day saints a forum to chat has been kicked out of the religion..
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Yes, I thought the similarities between LDS and JWs are astounding.