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  Battle over contamination at Watchtower site in Warwick

  by OrphanCrow in

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  http://www.recordonline.com/article/20151214/news/151219671.

  battle over contamination at watchtower site in warwick.

  by hema easley .

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  How many opportunities did they have to pull out? Before they bought? After they bought but before they began building? In the real world, everybody involved in these decisions would be fired.
  
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  Noah's ark

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those that believe in the flood story as genesis says, then they also are forced to accept a huge amount of evolution, way faster than any evolutionist would propose.. from a basic selection of "kinds", to the several millions of land species there are now, and in only about 4000 years.. not to mention the many types of birds that made it to remote islands, and then somehow lost their ability to fly... not even possessing wings( ex- dodo bird, moa).

  scientists agree this was a process that took eons of time.. i was thinking of this because we just had a public talk on noah.

  i sure couldn't make a fool of myself on that subject, going on how "factual" it all is..

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  The flood myth is the easiest means for anyone to wake up to TTATT or TT about the bible. If that story is true and written by holy spirit I'll eat my lawnmower. No one who gives the story any thought can believe it. That's a pretty dogmatic statement and there are probably some smart people who believe the story, but it is only because they haven't really thought about it.
  
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  Elders who dislike other congregation elders

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my congregation had four elders who had different personalities.you would see a little friction among themselves.. #1 self-righteous and the 800 pound gorilla.he would push everyone around in the congregation and even some fellow elders.. # 2 elder was around 80 years old and looked like he stuck around a little too long.it looked like he was around because he never decided to give up the position.his duty became very light as he aged.. # 3 elder was in his early 30's and newly elected.he made no waves and whatever was asked of him in the congregation he would do.easy to push around like a little puppy dog.. #4 elder (who everyone liked ) was easy to get along with and had a family who everyone loved.

  he didn't like elder # 1. they had a power struggle amongst each other which everyone observed while the meetings were in session.. here are 2 small verbal fights that i observed while the congregation meetings were in session:.

  while elder # 1 was giving a talk ( heavy rain storms are brewing outside with loud thunder and lightning ) the microphones and lights are knocked out.we lost all power and could barely see.

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  I agree with all of the comments so far. I've experienced an incredible amount of infighting among every BOE that I've been associated with along with tons of fighting between BOEs that share a Hall. In every instance, the R&F and the elders themselves say, "Jehovah will take care of it in his own time." If you consider that there are over 100,000 congregations worldwide, the big J has one hell of a backlog to clear out if he is going to do anything about this stuff. In the meantime his precious organization is crumbling from the inside out.
  
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  Finally heard a Dub defend overlapping generations

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, i have found the jws i know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject.

  i can't remember hearing a single dub try to defend this idiocy.

  but that all ended recently.

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  Interesting observations, everyone!
  
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  Finally heard a Dub defend overlapping generations

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, i have found the jws i know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject.

  i can't remember hearing a single dub try to defend this idiocy.

  but that all ended recently.

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  Since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, I have found the JWs I know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject. I can't remember hearing a single Dub try to defend this idiocy. But that all ended recently. I was at a party (get together in JW speak) and an uber dub sister pipes up about how grateful she is of Brother Splane's recent explanation of the overlapping generations. She said that she had been foggy on how this doctrine works but that the graphs and charts really pulled it all together for her, and that the example of Freddy Franz being overlapped was just what she needed to clear up her understanding. In her words, it now "all makes perfect sense". Of course the rest of the dubs in the room had no choice but agree, albeit with little enthusiasm.
  

  I never cease to be amazed at how people can gobble up garbage and call it filet mignon. I'm starting to think that maybe the GB is not as clueless as I once thought. They obviously know their audience and realize that sooner or later, this insane doctrine will be accepted. Shame on them, though.
  
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  Noah's Ark

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i'm reading the book "the atheist book of bible stories" and something just occurred to me.. noahs ark rested on the top of mount ararat.

  how the hell did all the land animals, dinosaurs and other monsters get to ground level?

  did noah and his family just push them off the mountain and hope for the best?

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  Wizard of Oz: It was TURTLES all the way down.

  Funny!
  
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  Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  i read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.

  hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.

  the lett effect?

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  I can't speak for JW Rogue but a David Splane moment that turned my stomach was when he "splained" the overlapping generation theory for the first time and said, "We LOVE this teaching!" I knew something was rotten in Denmark the moment he said that.
  
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  Bethels all downsizing within a year?

  by Formerbrother in

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  2. beliefs

  why is there a huge cull going on of all bethels around the world?.

  about 80% cull within the next year?.

  some have been in bethel for decades and will be sent packing, the 20% of bethelites who stay will have to do their own food, laundry and clean their flat.

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  I agree with dropoffyourkeylee that most of the scuttlebutt about this indicates a 20% reduction in workforce, not 80. But what would you think about a major corporation saying they were laying off 20% of their employees? You would have to figure that they are in big financial trouble.

  So did they begin all of these projects and "hire" all of these Bethelites while betting on the come (hoping contributions would rise)? I doubt it. The GB may not have better sense than that but somebody in the Org does. They have bean counters, you can bet on that. So what happened? Something catastrophic I would think. The few million that they are paying Candice Conte doesn't seem like enough to tip them over, but maybe they are putting together a massive war chest to protect themselves against additional lawsuits that they know are on the way. Or maybe they're stockpiling money for something else that hasn't been revealed yet. Maybe there's a time bomb ticking out there somewhere...
  
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  2015 10-20-BOE!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  2015, 10/20/boe.. .. re: making wise use of printed magazines.. .. page 2: .

  this postscript should neither be read to the congregation nor be posted .

  on the information board.. .

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  By the way, this letter has not been released to elders in the US at this time.
  
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  The Angels will guide a nuclear bomb away from the Governing Body!

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  this is one major reason why i dont try to wake up anyone anymore.

  they need to take the first step, and then i will help---- if they ask.

  otherwise i just listen and marvel at how some of them think.

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  To John Aquila for the OP: My god, could anyone be more self centered than your elder buddy? The JWs aren't a pimple on the backside of this world but in the minds of JWs, it's all about them.