years ago when i was a jw, one of their cornerstone teachings was that they were nothing like babylon the great.
i remember being taught that the witnesses not using any type of clergy class distinction was proof that they had the right religion.. well, recently we had this article in the local paper, and an elder who was no doubt the presiding overseer tried to use the clergy class excuse to get out of answering questions regarding a child abuse case.
here is the statement that really got to me.
With so many things they need to cover themselves from, I’m not surprised that they are adopting new ways of dealing with the real stuff.
Deny deny deny!!
New lights, old lights, kitchen lights. 🙄
my living room light yesterday was an old light... today’s is a new light.
all a big bag of cow poop 💩!
just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.
and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.
looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .
To be honest... I don’t know how this organisation gets away with this.
if this was in a school or on a place where young minds can be affected there would be an uprising of parents demanding an explanation!
Witnesses won’t let their children watch films that are less harmful than these pics but nonetheless young children are brought up seeing war images and destruction on a regular basis, specially inside a place where they should be worshiping the god of love and truthfulness.
Just because this comes from the watchtower....they allow it. Little do they realise that these are moulding and damaging their children.
Not mentioning the guilt, the anger, being afraid, not be able to feel worthy of love, or sometimes living.
Scared of the end of the world, scared of losing everything they know, scared of being themselves, scared of being honest. And guilt of the simplest things. 😔
A web of things that can lead to so many problems later on.
today, many signs have been fulfilled showing that we are in the end times and much has been said in regards to armageddon, tribulation... etc but little in regards to what happens to those who believe and what transitions them to be free and escape from all that to the final destination.
this is my focus and message is based on that.in creation, there were two trees at the centre of the garden of eden and we are familiar with what happened;man ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and then we are familiar with the ramifications afterwards.
now through jesus christ, the events that will lead to the end for those who believe are in 3 stages1.knowledge will be increased (daniel 12:4)there will be a transition, knowledge will transition from that of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to also include knowledge of the tree of life and this brings with it a transformation that will bring in the second phase2.healingthe knowledge/belief/faith will bring about spiritual transformational healing, also practical knowledge i.e.
well they will ALL wake up one morning and think... wow that was a weird dream!
then get up, have bfast and go to work.
wouldn't that be a dream?
All those 8 million liberated.
don't be startled by the title of this thread.
heaven knows we need never be ashamed of our tears, for they are rain upon the blinding dust of earth, overlying our hard hearts.. in planning for my escape from the borg, i've come to the sad realization that the best thing for me to do considering factors like: breaking my parents and siblings hearts, lack of support groups, lack of counseling groups for cult survivors, and the prospect of finding a mate who shares my secular views on life, i've come to the realization that i need to leave my country and even my continent africa.
i know i sound desperate, but what can a brother do when all he can do is cry out for help or die in silence.
Saorean,
fleeing your country will not be an easy thing to do. From building new connections, to getting the right job , to housing, to country rules and customs to getting used to the weather.
maybe you can move away from your area first and see how it goes.
taking a drastic decision like that has its repercussions too.
religious persecution it’s not normally associated with Jehovah’s Witnesses, so that’s a dead end.
in my opinion if you still feel that you need to leave for whatever reason you need to, then you must sit and plan your life first. A legal plan though. If you have skills then look at countries that need those.
Leaving everything that you ever known behind is a gut wrenching feeling that will follow you for sometime. And if you would be leaving wouldn’t you be away from your family anyway? So your relationship would be almost non existent, like if you left the jws (not the same but very similar) specially if you are in Africa and flights can be expensive to the countries you’ve mentioned.
Is this something your family could do often? Go and visit you?
I understand that you are still young, so explore all avenues before committing to something that can turnout much harder than it looks.
Good luck.
i drove through a nearby seaside town today.
it was starting to rain.
it was cold.
I saw some too.
Today on my local town, standing next to the cart two young man. Not normally on a Friday and not normally young men, many times I see two “sisters” there.
Well dressed, smiling and talking to each other while keeping an eye out, but not approaching anyone.
Firstly I thought, gosh it’s so cold out... why are you even here?! And if you’re not talking to anyone... how can you be preaching? I don’t get it.... you’re not saving anyone from the blooming-gedon.
Then I looked at the cart and at them, and I just thought... I hope you have day jobs to save you one day.
could not but just feel some pity to see them just there counting hours for nothing. So silly.
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i dunno about you, but if i walked up to this display at an expo i'd be a little creeped out..
There’s 8 people there... how many new sheep are they expecting?!
all looks so robotic, feels like a sale of religion instead of god’s teachings.
this is the first of many posts from me.
i'm pimo, an overseer, somewhere in africa.
i'll hold of giving further details until i've executed my plan to leave the organization.
Saorean
welcome to this site, as a almost newbie myself can be daunting talking to others and finding friendships of a similar age.
I was never baptised but I have family that are witnesses, hence my name... theonlyoneleft.
I came here to learn more, find explanations to my past while listening to others accounts... I’m sure that you will find soon some similarities here, so don’t give up, stick around.
There are so many experienced members here that I’m sure you won’t see an age difference.
(It’s just a number after all.)
You will end up having fantastic conversations of past days and present stories.
I’m not young but not old....but if you ask me... my heart feels like 25... and I’m sticking to that 🙂.
so welcome and enjoy the journey.
we have been in a battle over health care for so long here in the us regarding public, private, gov't subsidized, obama care, medicare for all, and just about every permutation of the above.. we hear the horror stories here that people wait 20 years for a check-up (ok, bit of an exaggeration), but you get the point.
one side tells us that canadians flock across the border when they are sick and need to see a doctor.
the other side says that is simply not the case.. so tell us, if you live under one of the government systems would you replace it?
Also agree... if people had to pay let’s say £10/£15 to see a doctor in the emergency room they would think twice before clogging the space with vain trips.
They would have to be more responsible, assess their situation and make a decision.
Also... we wouldn’t have so many Fridays Saturdays and Sundays evenings spaces filled with the younger generation that seems to drink until oblivion.
The services that are needed to deal with those that are in real need are normally taken by silly people that put themselves at risk because they are drinking.
we have been in a battle over health care for so long here in the us regarding public, private, gov't subsidized, obama care, medicare for all, and just about every permutation of the above.. we hear the horror stories here that people wait 20 years for a check-up (ok, bit of an exaggeration), but you get the point.
one side tells us that canadians flock across the border when they are sick and need to see a doctor.
the other side says that is simply not the case.. so tell us, if you live under one of the government systems would you replace it?
My ex sister in law works in a nhs hospital near a very busy airport. She has mentioned that they see many patients that come straight from the airport into the hospital to see a doctor.
My brother has worked in Heathrow airport and has spoken of the same similar cases.
i definitely agree that the NHS does a brilliant job as it is, but just imagine how better job could be if we had the needed numbers of staff.
A family member was working in a certain hospital’s ITU a few years ago but left the uk to “serve where the need is great”. She was trained in her country but came to work here.
The people that I know from Europe (many) don’t trust the national health service as they see it as “free”. They fly home, pay to see a doctor and do whatever they need there, that also includes dental services, It’s not that expensive for them and they are seen to their problem faster than visiting the nhs in the uk. Some don’t have that option, but the ones that do prefer to go, see a doctor there and buy the similar medication that they would probably get prescribed here.
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i dunno about you, but if i walked up to this display at an expo i'd be a little creeped out..
That translates to “Bible study online”.
Propaganda... 😖.
