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  Woe is me...

  by gutted in

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  2. relationships

  i need to get this out and this is the only place i know that it will be ok to do so.. so i've been out (inactive) for over a year a half now and decided i wanted a relationship with a non-jw, obviously.

  i'm in my late 20s and never really had a girlfriend.

  it doesn't help that i'm an introvert and not a very social person, add to that the guilt and control issues i have from jws and i don't think i have many outgoing attractive qualities.. i have been on dates with about 4 girls so far, one i approached randomly and the others from online dating.

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  3rdgen

  Dear (((((((((((((((Gutted))))))))))))))) hugs from a mama. Did you see the movie "Crazy Stupid Love?" While hilarious there actually were some good tips in the beginning about dating.

  The tips you've received here are a good place to start. Go into meeting people as though you're only making friends. It will take some of the pressure off. Keep things light at first. Ask

  questions but not intrusive ones. Listen carefully to her answers and respond in the affirmative to her feelings. I agree, John Gray's books are very helpful. Good luck!
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  I'm sorry, but I have to say this re Katy Perry (fluff thread, sort of)...

  by rebel8 in

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  [stealing aguest's title.

  i don't think she has a good voice.

  in fact i have a very bad singing voice and she sounds like me.

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  3rdgen

  I admit I agreed with you who don't "get it " until I was visiting my daughter who was given vip tickets to KP's concert this summer in Santa Barbara. We attended together and afterward

  I "got it". The show was exceptionally entertaining and she did her very best as it was her hometown. Believe it or not. she sounded much better in person. Her voice sounded richer-

  less shallow. And she's so campy it was infectious. The show had a berlesque feel without being nasty. This old brod had a blast!
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  You Can Overcome WT Phobias!

  by leavingwt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  early in the exit process, it's very important to begin overcoming irrational fears.

  fear of the devil.

  fear of god.

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  3rdgen

  Our thoughts and actions have been micro-managed to the point where some have trouble deciding what flavor ice cream to order without being told.

  (thought process) Is rocky road for "true christians"? Answer: only if it is a narrow, cramped scoop! Thanks Shamus, your maple syrup thread helped

  me to get the Bible's viewpoint on tree blood which helped me reason on the ice cream issue.
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  How long can one continue as an unbelieving JW?

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  is it really possible to continue as a jw but not believing in it anymore.

  for how long can one keep up with this pace of life?.

  i will appreciate it if any scientific study had been done on this and what has the result showed?..

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  3rdgen

  How long depends on a lot of variables. Some like me can't do it for even 2hrs. Others like my ex-husband lived a double life for over 25 years till he wanted to be caught. He was

  appointed a MS then an elder by holy spirit? who at the same time , had scores of mistresses and a full-blown meth habit. He was a pathological liar who became a mid-level dealer.

  He stayed alive and escaped arrest by becomming a confidential informant. He ended up messing with the 12yr old daughter of a high ranking member of an Infamous

  Biker club. Not long after he was caught, he died mysteriousy ? in his 50's.
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  More Young People Are Leaving The Organization!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've heard that another 2 people have left the "truth" as soon as they could get out.

  both girls were elder's daughters.

  they aren't elders now because they were somewhat problem teens.

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  Not just young people are leaving. The WTS is pushing Anyone out who hasn't become too old to think.
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  Confused...

  by raxxxx in

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  2. experiences

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  hiya and... i do not really know where to begin... currently a jw... slightly starting to fade... got a girlfriend baptised... i am baptised also... my head is a mess... i do not know what to believe anymore... never really fully trusted elders as it comes to 'leading the flock'... got burned a few times with their ... decisions etc.

  read a few articles in here about their alleged false beliefs... do not really know what to do... wondered if any of you felt like that at any point... when something that you trusted and followed most of your life... does not seem to be what you thought it was... .

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  3rdgen

  Yes, Shades of Grey, We kept thinking that the WTS is Gods Org who have become like the bad kings of Isreal

  until I asked hubby and myself the question : then exactly what years were they teaching the WHOLE truth?

  Russel had a kinder, gentler view but he also taught that HE was the "faithful and wise servant" Then we have

  the Rutherford years that turned a Sincere group of Bible students into rabid JW's dragging around phonographs

  Blaring hateful speeches. All the while he was an alcoholic who also said HE was the "faithful and discrete steward"

  Next we have the Knorr-F Franz years where the concept of the "faithful and discrete slave"(NWT) being an
  ORGANIZATION came to be. These years weren't better though. The 1975 debaucle, the Blood doctrine, The Malawai travesty rules out those years as well. The years after Knorrs death didnt produce ANY reform either - only more false predictions that they lie about ever saying. God HATES liars. No it never was used by God and that's a bitter pill to swallow. But the sooner we accept reality the sooner we can get on with what's left of our lives!
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  Confused...

  by raxxxx in

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  hiya and... i do not really know where to begin... currently a jw... slightly starting to fade... got a girlfriend baptised... i am baptised also... my head is a mess... i do not know what to believe anymore... never really fully trusted elders as it comes to 'leading the flock'... got burned a few times with their ... decisions etc.

  read a few articles in here about their alleged false beliefs... do not really know what to do... wondered if any of you felt like that at any point... when something that you trusted and followed most of your life... does not seem to be what you thought it was... .

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  Raxxxx, You are getting very good advice here. This same advice is helping my husband and me as well. We only recently decided this religion

  is not being used by God and nodoubt never was. The never was part is the hardest to deal with for us. For me it's like finding out that your family

  has kept a secret your whole life-You are adopted. It becomes not only a matter of what to do but who can I trust? How do I leave the only family I've

  ever known?Who am I? You can leave this organization but it's much harder to get the ideas, guilt and fear of the organization out of you. I'm seeing a

  therapist who is helping a lot. Read, think, repeat. You are not alone!
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  Has anyone here actually convinced someone out of the truth here?

  by bottleofwater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm talking about even people in their own congregation, or even a simple comment at the meeting that shut people up..

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  3rdgen

  Some people who are strongly entrenched like I was don't leave because of one experience or comment. Over the period of many years I had seen

  and heard things that bothered me but chocked it up to "imperfect men". However, as things piled up in my mind there was "the straw that broke

  the cammels back". Reading Barbara Anderson's story and COC added tremendous weight to my doubts but the posters here can pat themselves

  on the back for adding the "last straws". I shared what I was reading with my husband. In time he started coming to this site too. BINGO he's now

  out with me. :)
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  What really ended the book study in private homes?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been over 3 years since the book study in private homes was discontinued and some jws are still scratching their heads over it.

  although a letter was read to all congregations explaining that "book study night" would now be "family worship night", there was still much speculation among jws as to the real reason behind this decision (the great tribulation was about to start, jehovah was simplifying the lives of jws, to lessen the burden of poor jws who had no money for gas, etc.)...

  but as we all know, decisions like these from the gb invariably have some ulterior motive behind it... and discussion boards such as this one usually finds a way to dig up the truth for all to see... but after reading several threads on this subject, i'm really not sure we've uncovered all the facts yet.... so i have to ask... what do you believe really ended the book study in private homes?

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  3rdgen

  The excuse the society gives is laughable. As if they have the sligest concern about the burden THEY heap onthe friends. Gas prices in Europe have been

  exorbatant since cars were invented. They would brag year in and year out in the YB and elseware about people walking miles through a dangerous

  jungle or paddleing a canoe through alligator infested water etc to get to all those miserable meetings. Then when they arrived they had the "privelidge"

  of listening while sitting on a rock for 2hrs. No they will never admit the REAL reasons. I believe point A is valid but LIABILITY is the main issue. Where else

  but the book study can close relationships be developed between pedophiles and their victims.
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  Kids in hospital, JW family still shuns.

  by mamalove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was an awful weekend both of my kids were in the hospital with pneumonia.

  one had to stay the night and the other was treated in the er.

  it was extremely stressful and worrisome to say the least.

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  3rdgen

  Dear mommalove, So terribly sorry that your kids have been so sick. The worry and stress of that is bad enough without the addition of the toxic family

  dinamics. It's hard to comprehend grandparents punishing grandchildren when they are completely innocent even by their own standards. This vividly

  demonstrates Jesus' words "By their fruits you shall know them" They have lost "all natural affection".Hopfully you can or have developed new support

  system. There probably will come a time when the folks will be elderly and need assistance. You might remind them that you and your kids wil be picking

  out their rest home. (name the most dismal one you can think of.) We actually did this with my MIL. Funny how fast she improved!