Lostinthought, Wow talk about timing! I had to have surgery last winter soon after I had torn up my blood card. It was such a relief not to have to even discuss the issue with my doctors.
Posts by 3rdgen
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20No more blood card
by lostinthought inwhat a day!
first of all one of my electronic devises broke so the store said they would replace it i just needed to show id, i removed my license from my wallet and saw my blood card staring me in the face i couldn't stand looking at it so i took it and crumpled it up and threw it away, upon leaving the store i had a car accident it the parking lot, nobody was terribly injured but it was my fault so i feel bad...but i also feel elated that i tore up the card, what if i had a really bad accident and i needed blood?
what could have happened to me?
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Disfellowshipped for Being Raped!
by UnDisfellowshipped inmarch 8th 1974 issue, pages 13-16:.
"scream!
scream!
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3rdgen
Yes, NC, you're right. Sisters have not only been disfellowshipped for not following their screaming rule, I know at least 2 victims personally who were told they could NEVER speak the name of the accused to anyone or else they would be back in the comittee room with charges such as slander, walking disorderly, and causing divisions. Not surprisingly, they are now EX JWs.
Incidently, threatening a person to shut up about a crime is illegal in California. It is called Conspiracy to intimidate a witness. I hope victims will persue their legal remedys now while the climate is favorable.
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Disfellowshipped for Being Raped!
by UnDisfellowshipped inmarch 8th 1974 issue, pages 13-16:.
"scream!
scream!
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3rdgen
Ninja, How many years have you been a JW? Your experience is limited.
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Will Watchtower Bible and Tract Society staff or Jehovah's Witnesses ELDERS be convicted next ?
by Balaamsass inabout an hour ago the first criminal conviction of clergy involved in child abuse cover-up occured!
considering the power of the the catholic church, and the percentage of catholics on the jury this is incredible!!!!!
how long do you think it will be before before elders and bethelites among jehovahs's witnesses are convicted of criminal conspiracy with no jehovah's witnesses in the jury pool ?
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3rdgen
Diamonddiz, You hit on an important point. The attorneys for the Watchtower (both JW and non) need to be sued for their part in the conspiricy to protect pedophiles. Once one case is won the legal prescident wiil be set for the rest. I can't wait for the Watchtower to continue to bleed $$$$$$$$$
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Disfellowshipped for Being Raped!
by UnDisfellowshipped inmarch 8th 1974 issue, pages 13-16:.
"scream!
scream!
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3rdgen
To Longhaired girl, If the rapist is a non-JW , there would be absolutely NO reason to tell the elders. However, if the purp is a JW, she is programed to tell in order to to do her part to warn others within the cong and to keep it clean. The problem is this: The way the Elders handle the situation is often deplorable! They turn the victim into a consentual participant. She is then judged and executed by the people entrusted to care for her spiritual welfare. This is a horrific abuse of power.
Additionally, by mislabeling it consentual, others are put at risk as well. In other words we can't blame the victim for being a dumbass for not knowing better than to trust the elders. WE know better but these innocent victims don't.
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Punk got shunned HURRAH!!!!
by punkofnice inso i was da'd last september as a 'mentally diseased apostate'(tm) that the 'jehu elders'(tm) should 'slaughter'(tm) if the law of the land allows it.. i now get shunned in the street and i think it's so childish of the dubs to do so.
one family that shunned me was a family i bent over backwards to help them when they had to move house.
their loss...i won't help them again!.
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Punk, Glad you are taking their shunning in stride! You are finally free to associate with people you actually LIKE. LOL
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Good-bye, friends
by BizzyBee inwe bees leave for our trip this afternoon - a river cruise from budapest to the black sea.
everyone on the ship is a tandem cycling couple.
we will visit hungary, serbia, moldav, romania, austria, germany and croatia.. it will be a nice break from politics and the world news since we don't watch much tv on these trips.. hold down the fort - see you in a couple of weeks!.
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Have a wonderful trip, Bizzy, I'm jealous!
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The Sandusky Scandal's Possible Impact on the WTS
by Quendi ini hope the powers-that-be in brooklyn are paying close attention to what is happening in state college, pennsylvania with respect to the hideous pedophile scandal at penn state university because it speaks directly to their own handling of pedophilia.
here is a news release about the matter:.
state college, pa. (ap) -- penn state's investigation into the jerry sandusky scandal concludes that the administrators who fielded a 2001 complaint about him created a dangerous situation for future victims by not reporting the matter.. the freeh group's report issued thursday said that in order to avoid bad publicity, president graham spanier, football coach joe paterno, athletic director tim curley and vice president gary schultz ''repeatedly concealed critical facts.''.
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3rdgen
Another related issue is that in many of the cases of child sexual abuse within the Watchtower organization, the victoms and their parents were THREATENED to keep silent about the abuse and the idenity of the purp.
In California threatening or intimidating a witness in a court case(or potential) is against the law. The Elders who made these threats broke the law. They are personally liable. The WTB$ claims the elders are independent agents. The elders will have to foot the bill PERSONALLY for these threats as well as cover-ups.
That might make them think twice about obeying WBT$ protocol. After all, In the real world "I was only obeying orders!" doesn't cut it.
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The Sandusky Scandal's Possible Impact on the WTS
by Quendi ini hope the powers-that-be in brooklyn are paying close attention to what is happening in state college, pennsylvania with respect to the hideous pedophile scandal at penn state university because it speaks directly to their own handling of pedophilia.
here is a news release about the matter:.
state college, pa. (ap) -- penn state's investigation into the jerry sandusky scandal concludes that the administrators who fielded a 2001 complaint about him created a dangerous situation for future victims by not reporting the matter.. the freeh group's report issued thursday said that in order to avoid bad publicity, president graham spanier, football coach joe paterno, athletic director tim curley and vice president gary schultz ''repeatedly concealed critical facts.''.
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3rdgen
Another related issue is that in many of the cases of child sexual abuse within the Watchtower organization, the victoms and their parents were THREATENED to keep silent about the abuse and the idenity of the purp.
In California threatening or intimidating a witness in a court case(or potential) is against the law. The Elders who made these threats broke the law. They are personally liable. The WTB$ claims the elders are independent agents. The elders will have to foot the bill PERSONALLY for these threats as well as cover-ups.
That might make them think twice about obeying WBT$ protocol. After all, In the real world "I was only obeying orders!" doesn't cut it.
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What scripture bothered your concious?
by stillhurts ini have been out 3 years.
i was baptized, never df'd.
ignored the 2 or 3 phone calls from the elders, and then they left me alone.
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3rdgen
Welcome Stillhurts! As you have probably gathered, the are many points of view on this board. Some Believe the Bible is inspired by God. Others think it's lost a lot in translation and wonder why God didn't preserve it better. Still others think it's worthless since they don't believe there is a God anymore.
Speaking of the 144,000 mentioned in Rev. The more I gave it serious thought, the more I concluded that it could not possibly be a literal number. In the 1st century when thousands converted at a single event, the # was undoubtedly filled THEN. Assuming that after the 3rd century absolutely NO one was approved by God (a ridiculous idea) until Paster Russell shows up, there were more than 144,000 Bible Students/JWs before the majic year of 1935.
Now there's a governing body who didn't start partaking till there were MILLIONS of living JWs, not to mention those that had already died. Either 144,000 is not and never has been a literal # or the GB is going to have to come up with a secondary class of Anointed with no specific # in order to explain away the growing amount of partakers. Oh, thats right, they don't want to count partakers anymore. No surprise why they don't! Sheeeeesh