I don't think I understand. I, like many are not sure about a PERSON named Satan. Yet does that mean there is no such thing as evil? Well, I have observed that most on this board have condemed pedophilia and incest as evil. Am I wrong? In fact, simply covering these things up by the WTS is condemed on this site by everyone. How then, can it be said it those acts are not evil?
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39Where Do You NOW Think Wickedness Comes From? The Devil or... ?
by LoisLane looking for Superman ini think wickedness comes from evil people.. there are many people in between the two extremes of, overly good people and overly evil persons.. i do not believe in a devil.. i think he is a concept dreampt up by evil ones to blame bad behavior, as a red herring, on anyone but themselves.. the watchtower makes up attrocious lies, brow beats good people not to better themselves,.
all the while, they are building their own empire.. they say, do not isiolate yourself.
it is not good for you.. but if you don't agree with them and their current teachings, you will be shunned, disfellowshipped.. that can and does, have earth shattering results.. so many things, i was taught as a born in, are now considered apostate teachings.
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JW's planning for retirement
by FirstLastName ini had an interesting discussion with a jw family member recently and he brought up his plans for retirement.
according to his age bracket, this will not be for another 20 years or so.
he plans to buy land, build a house, move the parents nearby.
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3rdgen
LHG, I couldn't agree with you more. In another thread about the appearent sadness within the RandF my observation was that there are 2 main catagories of JWs. #1: The uber believiers who obey each and every rule and suggestion from the leadership. THESE are the weary, sad, and unprepared ones. And like you said, tend to want more company. So they but into others business trying to find some infraction especially among those who seem more happy #2: The ones who do their own thing when away from the KH. These KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT and associate ONLY with like minded ones. They have more education, better jobs, take vacations, and plan/planned for retirement. These dubs are usually born in thus they have a big family support system. These are the happiest of dubs. .
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Update - Protest done - Hi Everyon
by LouBelle ini have been rather scarce i know, i've been so very busy with work that i don't really have much time to log on, and we had someone come into our home and steal our laptop, so haven't been able to log on at home either.. work is still going very well.
it's not easy cold selling, but i've had a good few ads come in and keep me ticking over.
every now and again i pop because i simply don't know what else management want me to do, i'm doing everything i can.
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Update on my fade
by wizzstick init's been over 3 months since i first posted after years of lurking:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/253883/1/my-story-a-kinda-newbie-from-the-uk#.ukhopt-yza8.
and what a 3 months it's been.
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3rdgen
OTWO, LOL I have said something similar to hubby about the ones who treated us so badly. If not for them we'd sill be stuck in.
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SHUN ME IF YOU MUST SONG
by RankAtheist1 ini have been d.f'd since '72 when my over-acheiving brother spearheaded the action because i had visited with my d.f'd mom and my catholic wife had a christmas tree!
so it has been a while since i have given serious thot to this crap.
but my eyes were opened this last 4th of july at lake tahoe when about 50 of us at a camp site sat and related all the personal adventures of trying to extricate oneself from this insidious cult!
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3rdgen
Rank athiest, nice job!!! For sure you are a better man and so are we.
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Do you detect an underlying sadness ?
by Phizzy inwhenever i talk to jw's, and even in some of the jw official videos, i detect a definite vibe of sadness coming off these people.. i am very sensitive to "atmospheres" and to peoples emotional state, you wouldn't think so, because more often than not i do not react to what i detect, i just let people get on with it.. but i do get this feeling that they are sad, probably because very, very, very deep down they realise that it is all false, maybe ?.
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3rdgen
The more obedient the JW the more tired and sad he is. Show me a happy Witness (and I know some) I'll show you someone who doesn't do what they are "supposed to". The problem with that is, when the self-rightous hard workers see that some JWs have fun or let their kids have fun, they gossip and sometimes slander them out of jealousy. I know, it happened to me. FUN is a four letter word in Watchtowerland.
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Do you detect an underlying sadness ?
by Phizzy inwhenever i talk to jw's, and even in some of the jw official videos, i detect a definite vibe of sadness coming off these people.. i am very sensitive to "atmospheres" and to peoples emotional state, you wouldn't think so, because more often than not i do not react to what i detect, i just let people get on with it.. but i do get this feeling that they are sad, probably because very, very, very deep down they realise that it is all false, maybe ?.
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3rdgen
Data dog, I'm sorry you are hurting
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I'am in the Penalty Box! I asked the Circuit Overseer "Who Donates Blood For Jehovah's Witnesses Blood Fragments".
by AuntConnie intold my husband to put a muzzle on my mouth over the blood dogma.
we all were driving around in field service when the topic of "which fragments would you take if you were in a car accident or cut yourself badly".
said his choice is a personal one, another sister with chronic health problems said she had no problem with the governing body's new light on taking various fragments.
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3rdgen
Now Connie, don't you worry your pretty little head about what makes sense or not. That's for da mens. Just go home and tend to your knittin'. If you aren't careful you might mess up hubbys promotion!
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Lunacy or apostasy?
by Separation of Powers inover the years i have heard some really strange beliefs shared openly with others in the congregation.
one sister, for example, stated that you could not be cremated because then "all your molecules will be spread around and jehovah couldn't put you back together.
" kinda sounds like she got stuck in a nursery rhyme there, a la humpty dumpty.. .
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Too looney for words
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How Do I Explain To My TalkTherapist That JW's Believe They Will Never Die?
by LoisLane looking for Superman ini know for us exjw's that have awakened from this religion, it seems incredulous that we ever.
could have believed we were going to live forever and never die.. not just never die, but never die, like i was raised to believe with.
the millions now living will never die, garbage.. i said that to my highly educated professional therapist last week.. her eyes got big, and she said gently as to a child, "loislane, we are all going to die".. yes, i know that now, but that is not what my religion taught and i believed, for 60 years.. any thoughts on how i explain this lunacy to her?.
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3rdgen
Psalm 37:10,11,29. The meek will inherit the earth and live forever upon it.