Island man, great response!
Posts by 3rdgen
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13Wow! Are You Stumped By Anything This 'Still-in' X-JW says?
by Island Man inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzn9aric28.
i think he needs help.
i feel pity for him..
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?? Question for those that have successfully faded/are out:
by Darth Fader The Sequel inquestion: can any of you that have successfully faded out of the jw world without being df'd or da'd relate to me/us how you were able to maintain at least one or a few of your "still in" friends or family?
(and even if you were df'd or da'd and still maintained some relationships, how did that go?).
obviously, the truly demented, sick and twisted (and highly effective) policies and structure of the wtbt$ to set up a system by which anyone that chooses to no longer believe or participate must be treated as "mentally diseased" and a pariah by their own friends and family is the hands down, numero uno reason why many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of jw's do not leave.
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?? Question for those that have successfully faded/are out:
by Darth Fader The Sequel inquestion: can any of you that have successfully faded out of the jw world without being df'd or da'd relate to me/us how you were able to maintain at least one or a few of your "still in" friends or family?
(and even if you were df'd or da'd and still maintained some relationships, how did that go?).
obviously, the truly demented, sick and twisted (and highly effective) policies and structure of the wtbt$ to set up a system by which anyone that chooses to no longer believe or participate must be treated as "mentally diseased" and a pariah by their own friends and family is the hands down, numero uno reason why many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of jw's do not leave.
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3rdgen
How long does it take before the coast is clear? I'm not sure it ever is completely clear. But the more time that passes the more likely you will be left alone. A lot will depend on how your family is viewed by your elders and how you behave in public. Let me explain:If an elder in your hall has a beef with you he will try harder to get rid of you. OTOH, if one or more elders is particularly fond of you they will try harder to drag you back. Best case senario is if the elders are worried what you might do if cornered by them (lawsuit, letters to CO/Branch, knowledge of wrongdoing by said elder/elders and their families) you get the picture. By public behavior I mean attending holliday activities, decorating for them, pictures or statements on social media JW's would find objectionable. Political involvement etc. etc. Saying anything that even hints at "apostasy" to another dub or family member.This is the part I have the most trouble with. No matter what you choose DF, DA, or fade, there are consequences that acompany each of them. In a fade you give up your personal freedom in order to keep a few friends and family. There is NO easy way out.
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Local Elder wins hot tub.
by Clambake inan elder in my cong.
test drove a new a car and was entered in this contest to win a new hot tub.
i don't know if he had to enter to was just.
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Why WT reform would never work
by JimmyPage ini used to think how great it would be if the wt finally made long overdue changes.
higher education would no longer be frowned upon.
men could have beards.
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3rdgen
Jimmy, if Watchtower made all the changes you listed as well as made it ok to question the GB, research doctrines and quoted sources, leave without any stigma, then it wouldnt be a cult but just another garden variety religion. The hook with JW's is the paradise earth- the carrot that makes the followers put up with the rest. Once you realize there is no Santa Claus/paradise earth why bother with reform?
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Elder ignores me at Walgreens here in Milwaukee.
by Joliette ina month ago i went to walgreens to get some snacks and a newspaper.
i was walking out when i noticed an elder that i grew up with walking towards me.
he kinda looked in my direction, the turned his head away and kept walking with his nose in the air.
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so when exactly did babylon the great fall?
by Crazyguy inin another thread a sister is being told that babylon the great fell in 1918 but all growing up i was taught that babylon the great was about to be destroyed by the un.
so what am i missionng here or are they caught in a blatant contradiction?
or was i hearing it wrong?.
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3rdgen
As per Rev 18:4 (if I remember right) I got out of her about 2 1/2 years ago. This scripture was pounded into the JW brain as long as I can remember. The society also said (I forgot which publication) that Babylon the Great also fell in the sense that her "waters dried up" meaning the doctrines and edicts coming from the churches no longer influenced its members. Kinda like JW's huh?
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.
this has got to be a joke.
anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.
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Snare & Racket's Graduation Picture
by cofty inafter years of hard work and study, former bethel boy snare & racket is now officially a medical doctor.. his story is an inspiration that there can be life after the watchtower.
he has given me permission to post his graduation picture.. .
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