The lost defamation lawsuits caused the WBT$ to impliment the infamous "dissociated themselves" action. They did it over the military origionally. Now they do it for many things like Blood transfusions, celebrating holidays, not showing up for JC etc. This way they can argue in court that the person was warned and they made the informed decision not to comply, therefore they are in effect, willfuly accepting the consequences of quitting the organization. I don't agree but that is the argument and THEY make the rules.
Posts by 3rdgen
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443Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??
by FeelingFree ini hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.
as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.
maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.
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MissFit I am so sorry for what you and your family have suffered. I hope you have a measure of peace now. People who ask why don't victims come forward are seldom victims. Predators often single out those who seem shy or diadvantaged in some way then terrify and shame them into not telling. I'm so tired of people blaming victims/survivors.
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This is Really Getting Scary!!! PLEASE LOOK!!
by NoMoreHustle instupid me does not know how to copy paste pics from instagram site.
nmh.
http://instagram.com/p/vbu5_xhiam/.
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"We're Jeee hooo vaaahs Wit ness es, the car toooons speeeek for us"
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I was discussing the possibility of DFing inactive ones with Hubby and he reminded me how the Society handled the NU lite of DFing smokers in the 70's. They made an announcement that smokers had 6 months to quit, then if they didn't they were DFed. They might give the inactive 6 months to come back and if they don't......OUT!
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NOT on JW.ORG: A.P. and International Press break stories about rampant child abuse by Jehovah's Witnesses MINISTERS and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Cover-ups.
by Balaamsass2 in$13.5m award in jehovah's witnesses molest caseby associated press.
published: 21:45 est, 31 october 2014 | updated: 21:45 est, 31 october 2014. .
san diego (ap) the jehovah's witnesses were ordered to pay $13.5 million to a southern california man who said he was molested as a child by a church member.. a san diego judge ruled wednesday that the church's governing body covered up years of sexual abuse by a member who later became an elder.. superior judge joan lewis said actions of the watchtower bible and tract society of new york were "reprehensible and reckless," u-t san diego reported friday (http://bit.ly/1uf519r ).. jose lopez, who was awarded the money, sued the group, alleging that he was molested in 1986 at age 7 by a member of the spanish congregation in the linda vista area of san diego.. lopez said the elders suggested gonzalo campos as his bible teacher even though they knew he had molested at least one other boy, the suit contended.
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BOTR, To imply that the lawsuits don't necessarily have merrit is unfair. What JW parent would sue a "brother" knowing that to do so means automatic DFing? They loose any and all standing in the congregation and often the support of their own families. The people who bring these suits are looking for CHANGE IN Watchtower POLICY as much as compenation.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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LG, I thought about that too, epecially the ones who faded over 10 years ago. Likely their cards aren't even in the files anymore. So who knows? It's just a thought.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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BOC, If the WBT$ would institue shunning inactive ones it would involve tens of thousands whose friends and family might not think deserve such a harsh punishment. The "test of faith" would be whether or not the flock would set aside their natural love and affection for a new rule they didn't agree with in order to prove loyal to the Borg and to avoid being DFed themselves for disobedience.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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How about making the announcement that a publisher who is innactive more than one year has "disasscociated himself" and is to be treated like he's DFed. More families tested and torn apart.
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Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?
by flipper indue to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
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Flipper, it is astounding that you recognized 12 JW names on Megan's list. That is just ONE town in California! I was once a single sister with 2 children I regularly brought to the KH and out in FS. I later found out that there were THREE accused Pedophiles in that cong that I had NO KNOWLEDGE OF! Parents are not notified when there is a predator/accused preditor in their midst and that is inexcusable. After all, elders give marking talks about teens who have smoked a joint or drunk alcoholetc. Why not pedophiles?
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Meeting for not paying assembly fees???!!!!
by Kool Jo inhey folks......has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?.
i visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly....same rubbish spoken about since ive been born....obey the gb, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.. anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so i was more focused on that....i started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation i grew up with.. upon the conclusion of the assembly, wed normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic.
however, for this assembly he told me that hes gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives...so a few minutes turned into an hour..
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In the old days entire elder body's were removed and or entire congregations disbaned if the WTBT$ ordered it. Wonder if they would do something like that over non compliance. WTBT$ can call rebellion over anything they want.