To Sapphy: Thanks a million!!! When that article came out I was terrifyed Jah would judge me a murderer so I became a reg. pioneer the next month! Good Grief , the guilt that was dumped on us!!!To Blondie: Thanks for pointing out the endless flip flops from the WTS on association with "weak" ones If you miss a w.e.e.k. of literature, you might not know how to treat the w.e.a.k.!
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17A week without field service makes you weak! Anybody remember that?
by Bonnie_Clyde ini remember an assembly--maybe 30 years ago--and it was stated over and over again in one of the assembly parts.
i suppose we should avoid association with someone who hasn't been out in service for a "week" or we will also become "weak.
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Multiple Abuse ...
by talesin ini wonder how many posters here are not only in recovery from spiritual abuse (jws) , but other traumas,, such as sexual and physical abuse,,, or rape as a young person (ie, child or teen).. .
how many of us are recovering from double - or triple - trauma ... ?.
anyone want to share?.
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Talisin, Thank you for starting this thread. While very painful to read and relive for the survivors, we are learning so much more about each other and ourselves. I think some of the blame for our parents terrible behavior goes back to "Judge"(not even a real judge) Rutherford. I say this because unlike his predessor, he had contempt for woman and especially children. They had no value. In JR's days it was considered "weak" to even HAVE children as though you didn't think the end was near. Children were hinderences to the preaching work etc. He set the pravailing attitue. The Knorr/Franz years carried many of the same viewpoints. When my longtime pioneer mother was preg. with me she was told by another JW "Some people will do ANYTHING TO GET OUT OF PIONEERING". All the scripteres in Prov. that spoke of beating children with the rod of dicipline for he won't die were read CONSTANTLY at the meetings. Parents couldn't help but adopt this sick attitude if they were paying attention. It was the "worldly" governments that caused a change in the org. by arresting baby and child beaters right at the kingdom Halls. Brooklyn was forced to soften the messages given on child rearing . While it didnt end the abuse(partly because most never happens at the Hall anyway) at least the subject is now before the public. It's about time!
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JWs Depression and Suicide
by 00DAD insince jehovah's witnesses supposedly have "the truth" and are part of god's visible organization living in a "spiritual paradise" you would naturally expect that they should be the happiest people on earth!
this clearly is not the case.
wha happened?
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00Dad, Thanks for starting this extremely informative thread. Sizemik, Thanks for your links!
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A week without field service makes you weak! Anybody remember that?
by Bonnie_Clyde ini remember an assembly--maybe 30 years ago--and it was stated over and over again in one of the assembly parts.
i suppose we should avoid association with someone who hasn't been out in service for a "week" or we will also become "weak.
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I remember as well but at least the bro in our hall that constantly made the remark did it with humor. He said "We need to participate in field service w.e.e.k.l.y not w.e.a.k.l.y." Then we all would laugh. To Blondie: I want to personally thank you for the exaustive research you do. ((Blondie)) I have a related Question: Some time in the 70's there was a W.T. study article that made the statement (I'm Paraphrasing) If a witness can pioneer and does not it is "tantimount to murder". Do you recall witch issue? Would you by any chance have the direct quote? Thanks again.
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Multiple Abuse ...
by talesin ini wonder how many posters here are not only in recovery from spiritual abuse (jws) , but other traumas,, such as sexual and physical abuse,,, or rape as a young person (ie, child or teen).. .
how many of us are recovering from double - or triple - trauma ... ?.
anyone want to share?.
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To Talasin: I cry for the innocent children like you who have no way to cope and I'm guessing, no one to turn to for help. Obviously, JW's aren't the only people who abuse their kids but the complication of the high control religion makes the abuse all the more damaging emotionally and spiritually because God is brought into the picture. I suffered some abuse growing up JW but NOTHING like many of you. Still, I remember being told at a young age that "IF we were living in Isrealite days you would be stoned to death and we (my parents) would have to throw the 1st stone." I'm sure many other kids got told that too.That is verbal abuse cloaked in religion. No wonder we were terrified of God. He's supposed to be our heavenly father.(((((((((((Talasin)))))))) I wish you pease and love.
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JWs Depression and Suicide
by 00DAD insince jehovah's witnesses supposedly have "the truth" and are part of god's visible organization living in a "spiritual paradise" you would naturally expect that they should be the happiest people on earth!
this clearly is not the case.
wha happened?
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Indian Larry , I see you have only been on this board a couple of days. Welcome! You and your wife and my husband and me have a lot in common. This is a healing place where you can just be your self and express questions, concerns, or whatever. thanks for your input. to Zid (((((((((Ziddena)))))))))) hugs You have been through it and then some. I hope life starts smoothing out for you soon!
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Multiple Abuse ...
by talesin ini wonder how many posters here are not only in recovery from spiritual abuse (jws) , but other traumas,, such as sexual and physical abuse,,, or rape as a young person (ie, child or teen).. .
how many of us are recovering from double - or triple - trauma ... ?.
anyone want to share?.
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To ohio cowboy I'm typing through tears for you. How parents could treat their own flesh and blood as yours did is beyond any rational thought. The people children depend on to love , nurture and protect are their parents. You did nothing to deserve this. Here is a hug from a mama(((((((((Ohio cowboy)))))))) How are you doing now? When and how did you leave the cult? Do you have any contact with these monsters now? All my best to you.
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What's the most insensitive thing you have been told while grieving?
by 3rdgen ina few years ago my 21 yr old firstborn and only son died in an accident.
i was an active jw at the time.
in fact , i was at the meeting when it happened.
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To Botz:It's so hard not to stoop to that level-proud of you for being bigger than that
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What's the most insensitive thing you have been told while grieving?
by 3rdgen ina few years ago my 21 yr old firstborn and only son died in an accident.
i was an active jw at the time.
in fact , i was at the meeting when it happened.
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To Snoozy: Lining well is the best revenge!
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What is the stupidest comment you ever heard at a meeting?
by 3rdgen ina very reliable friend told me this: the bro was commenting on what was "unacceptable" conduct in the bedroom between married persons.
needless to say, he had everyone's attention.
he went on to say "we must avoid perversions such as oral and annual sex.
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Mr f that comment at the book study is priceless!!! I would have neede depends if I would have been there!