Terry, as I recall, the authors of Watchtower have changed their "understanding" about who is and who is not an "ordained minister. I can remember hearing baptism talks where the speaker stated "Today you are an ordained minister." Hahah 10 and 12 year old girls included. Do you (or anyone else) know what years they believed what on this subject?
Posts by 3rdgen
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13Revealing a counterfeit CLAIM: JW's as ordained ministers
by Terry instop and think.
peter and john were "unlearned and ignorant men" without training in any ecclesiastical rabbinical school of their day.. acts 4:13. new king james version (nkjv).
13 now when they saw the boldness of peter and john, and perceived that they were uneducated and untrained men, they marveled.
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what have you learned since leaving ?
by man in black insince leaving the jw religion,what can you say that you have learned about life/people in a positive way that you probably would have never experienced.
if you had remained a witness ?.
my story is regarding this :.
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I must admit that for many years I took most deaths for granted as many JWs do UNTIL a family member I was especially close to suddenly died in his 40's. It was a devistating loss not only to our family but to the hundreds who loved him. I didn't recieve one card and just a couple of phone calls. From then on, like you, I made it a point to let others know my sympathy in writing. Cards mean more than we think. They are often kept forever. Later, when my own son died, I soon learned how shallow the love is at the KH. If i missed a meeting because I couldn't handle the music, crowd or stupid comments , I was gossiped about. We were treated so badly I basically stopped attending.
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Watchtower and Women's Rights
by jw07 inwe are in the year 2014, women make up the majority of the jw population, yet are not given certain '''''''privileges''''''' simply because they don't have a penis.
no talks, no leadership roles or the hope of them...ever, no matter how educated, zealous, or well spoken you are.. with the world moving towards upholiding women's rights do you see this becoming an issue that the watchtower will have to 'adjust it's thinking' on soon?.
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Why should anyone be surprised that women are considered second class in the WTS when so many of the origional leadership were in one way or another sexually repressed/deviant. Those nasty ole wimmens are "a hank of hair and a bag of bones".- J D Rutherford.
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My adorable 5 year son explaining the meaning of life
by jwfacts ini asked my son quite randomly before bed what he thinks the meaning of life is.
like always, his answer brought a smile to my face.
he said, "to have a great time .. to have fun and have friends ... and be happy.
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3rdgen
Too cute! How nice that he is being encouraged to think for himself and enjoy his life. Good job Dad!
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Which people in here (or apostate) would you like to actually meet in person?
by ILoveTTATT ini would like to meet so many people!
actually hang out with them and see if we get along after meeting in person!.
here's my list:.
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Yesterday I met up with SIAM for the second time. He is delightful! I can't wait to meet his family. I'm really looking forward to when we can attend the Tahoe shindig on July 4th. Till then PM me if you are in Northern Ca and want to get together.
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holy sh*t i just found out that my wife is thinking of getting baptized
by greenhornet inyes to the morman cult.
she wanted me to to go to there meetings and i said no way.. i stumbled upon a email of hers i was not soposed to read.
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Have you read Steven Hassans books? If not, do so asap!
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JW MECCA!!!! ANY THOUGHTS?!?!
by DATA-DOG inso...the wife wants to go to new york.
she wants to visit the holy land and see the new bible museum.
( sorry, trying not to vomit..) do you have any idea what it costs to fly to ny and get a room?
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TTaTTelder and Ray Publisher, LOL Hahahah
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A child that DIDN'T want to die ... a blood experience you won't read in Awake! or on JW.ORG
by wannabefree inwhile doing work for a client in her office recently, we got into a light discussion about religion.
she knew i was one of jehovahs witnesses as our business relationship started while i was still a loyal and believing jw.
anyway, i said something that she knew didnt quite fit and she said ... i thought you were one of jehovahs witnesses ... i shared my story ... she felt comfortable to confide in me a story as to why, even though she has had dealings with jehovahs witnesses who she thinks are good people, she would never even consider listening to them about their religion.. i asked her if she would write it down for me so that i could share ... she agreed.. this is her experience.. .
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It has been argued because not enough informaton was provided in the op, that the story is unreliable. While this may be tecnically true, to me it is more likely than not a believable story. I personally knew a 17 yo JW girl who was declared mature enough to decide to refuse a life saving blood transfusion. She died of lucemia within months of her origional diagnosis. This was 18 years ago in Susanville, California. Maybe some of you here know of this case. The parents bragged over and over how their daughter gave such "a powerful witness". I think it was their way of coping with the unecessary loss of their only child. MY point: How do any of us know how this beautiful, tallented, loving girl REALLY felt about dieing for a doctrine? She was a 3rd gen girl with a reg pio mother and PO Elder father and grandfather who was the Cong Servant for over 40 years! She was captive of a cult. If she would have agreed to a transfusion where would she go to recover? Who would support her decision? She knew FULL WELL she would be disfellowshipped and disowned by her ENTIRE family and friends. She had NO REAL CHOICE. Incidently,the doctors as well as the parents were fully convinced that a transfusion/s could have saved her.
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Nugget's Latest work in progress (pen and ink)
by cantleave instill a fair bit to do but i thought it is worth posting.
this is all done with dots no lines at all.. .
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WONDERFULLLLLLL!!!!!!
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How to DF 2 PeopleĀ With ZERO Proof! New YouTube video and article
by RayPublisher inthis story is quite remarkable and no doubt many will appreciate it being told.
it is telling for several reasons; it highlights the fact that the watchtower organization can expel and marginalize anyone for literally anything if they are crossed.
they did that to ray franz back in the early 1980s and they recently have done it to these fine folks.. there are some six pieces of documentation in the account and it is in some ways a complicated mess, but it really boils down to a couple of active witnesses informing on someone to the elders.
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