i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
like i said THEIR mentality was that she slandered THEM..not me
Go if you wish..however i question if their are going to be any dubs their to , as many of you believe, support the molester..if you are going to support erica ...go....but if you are going to protest the Watchtower..your time would be better spent at a district convention.
i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
during the interim she went on the radio stating that the dubs had abandoned her...........maybe so...but the dubs felt she was slandering the whole congergation..i cannot imagine what she went through..so the dubs felt that she was actively opposing them..probably why few supported her.
Precisely a organization wide problem. Starts at the very top, and corrupts every faithful witness. (faithful to the org)
had nothing to do with the top.....stating that you were brainwashed over the radio is not gonna win you any supporters
i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
Victims" over 25. I am just wondering, just what did this guy do to two women over 25 to make them victims? You stated they were victims.
they were abused when they were younger---when this came to light they were much older.....they are in fact in their 30's. This trial didnt happen till MANY years after the abuse
And, if what he is saying is true about the tapes, then maybe Tele's sources regarding this event aren't very reliable.
The excuse that they were there for the wife, to me is just absurd!
that just demonstrates you limited sense of compassion. Why shouldnt
the wife be supported. Should they have shunned her durning this horrible period?.......I thought thats what everyone complained about, the shunning by the dubs. Of course they should have supported Erica G. (yes that is her name, available in the Othello Outlook).I can give you a sense of the mentality there at the time..like it or not.
Erica had moved to i believe cali....she returned to prosecute..this as can be expected, came out of the blue and shocked everyone. during the interim she went on the radio stating that the dubs had abandoned her...........maybe so...but the dubs felt she was slandering the whole congergation..i cannot imagine what she went through..so the dubs felt that she was actively opposing them..probably why few supported her. it would be interesting to know that if nobody supported her how SL spoke to someone in the cong..Regardless..I know Erica is in her mid 20's now...and I want to get one thing straight.
I do not support the way the org handled this. Nor do i support blanket accuasations, like the whole congergation was against Erica and the Whole congergation supported the molester. That is flat out false. My family was in that congergation and anyone who would accuse them of supporting a molester had better get prepared to get the shit beat out of them... my compassion goes out to Erica, And SL if you wish, feel free to contact me so i can give a word of encouragement to Erica.
i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
Yes, I heard the recorded tapes of the event. Did you?
Really, perhaps you could post them in the net..I could identify voices, position in the congergation, relatives, etc...
I made absolutely no reference to the reaction at the six month reinstatement meeting. Perhaps you might want to read a little slower. I made reference to the first meeting when he returned from prision. I happened to talk with someone who was there. Were you?
Other victims who refused to testify? Would you care to explain why two other little children that were raped by this "brother" refused to testify?
The other "two children" were not children as you said. The were both married and over 25, why they didn't want to testify is not for me to question or anyone else. And despite what you may want to believ, the org had nothing to do with that one.
the former board of directors, now the back seat drivers via a group of minions, claim to be spirit mediums.
pick up any watchtower magazine, and in one of the two (or sometimes three) articles, somewhere will be the ever repeated -like a broken record- phrase, the "faithful and discreet slave" followed by matthew 24:45.. the watchtower synod then, claims to have "special knowledge" as it's called, and say that they are the only approved "communication" with god, who we all know dwells in the spirit realm.. therefore, the governing body lays claim to being a 'go-between' or "medium" between man and god (the spirit).
there's no two ways about it, they even use the term "channel", which means they are "channeling".. taking it one step farther, to consult the watchtower magazine would then be to consult "a spirit medium" making watchtower readers ones who consult spirit mediums.. what then does the bible teach about those who would lay claim to being "spirit mediums", as well as those who would "consult" them?
i claim that the bible is the only channel for knowledge of god.......i use it.......does that make me a medium?
i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
]2. No one silenced the death threats from the crowd of brothers and sisters at the trial. Weren't the elders in charge of the crowd? There were four there.
3.The molester was reinstated in six months two day before his daughter's wedding and walked her down the isle at the kingdom Hall, I do not recall any brothers and sister protesting this.
4.When he was released from prision he had a hero's welcome at his first meeting back with crying and hugs from everyone, again i do not think it was just to make his wife feel better.
funny.........were you there at the trial to hear the death threats? or were you there at the meeting to hear the heros welcome and crys and hugs....that is straight out bullshit...more so than the borg feeds..how would I know?.......becuase my immediate family was there , in fact questioned,
and was there for the meeting....hardly a heros welcome...in fact he left immediately after his re-instatement....please keep your false accuasation from polluting the cause of exposing the society...if you want names to prove myself........i could give initials of the other victims who refused to testify............nuff said
i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.
the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.
i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.
I am well acquainted with this trial. If I gave how i would be giving up my identity. Just a note. At the time of the trial there were two spanish congergations. However when the molestations took place in Othello, Wa (ritzville is the county "capital"), there were only one. I remeber the Garza family well. The parents were overtly strict dubs. And were quite good friends with the molester. The molester is now was df'd for his offenses, but is now in good standing. The local congergation was mortifed at what happened. being from a spanish community there is "family" atmosphere. to say that they just accepted the 'sicko' would be false. And indeed they had to answer questions regarding this in the local community. They hardly supported him, but were there for his wife.........who god knows why..stuck with the stupid phuck
kampala: - sixty four students of st. katherine girls school in lira have been suspended for planning a violent strike, reports james oloch....she said five girls who belonged to jehovah witness were to buy the petrol to be used to burn the school.. .
read the full story:.
http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?avis=wo&dato=20010730&kategori=news2&lopenr=10730010&ref=ar.
THE AWAKE magazine received an Award from a community in Congo....what more validity for journalistic integrity do you need?
i did find this little news-item, and i thought it to be so interesting i will post it here.
it seems there is a few americans who have seen the light as well, he, he..... ................... staff editorial.
sidelines.
I don't care, cause my brother is bigger than your brother
PRINCE IS NOT MY BROTHER DAMN IT!!!!!
on another thread, i was struck with a thought.
someone mentioned how brainwashed the r&f were to accept the drivel pumped out of bethel and it suddenly dawned on me that the 'tower and the awake!
and all the other literature are irrelevant.
urban legend......prob not...
should the society start publishing all experiences with contact info?