Posts by OBVES

26

OBVES & JWs If Jesus were not God,then Expl...

by Adonai438 in

jw
friends

if jesus is not god, then explain... .

-how can jesus know all men (john 16:30)?

-how can jesus, the christ, dwell in you (col. 1:27)?

OBVES

Yahweh is GOD , but Jesus is God . In the English we can easily make a distinction .In the Hebrew all letters were small so

yahweh is god , jesus is god , moses was god and the servants of god yahweh and jesus will be gods .

So ,if you don't understand the Bible you will see a confusion how many gods ?

We read each word " god " in the contextual appearance and link it with some other related passages of the Bible.

To answer your list of proofs that Jesus is God you note that Yahweh is GOD but Jesus is God . GOD is not the same as God.

<<<<

-How was it possible for Jesus to know all things, (John 21:17)?
-How can Jesus know all men (John 16:30)?
-How can Jesus be everywhere (Matt. 28:20)?
-How can Jesus, the Christ, dwell in you (Col. 1:27)?
-How can Jesus be the exact representation of the Nature of God (Heb. 1:3)?
-How can Jesus be eternal (Micah 5:1-2)?
-How can Jesus be the one who gives eternal life (John 10:27-28)?
-How can He be our only Lord and Master (Jude 4)?
-How can Jesus be called the Mighty God (Isaiah 9:6) if there is only one God in existence (Isaiah 44:6-8; 45:5)?
-How was Jesus able to raise Himself from the dead (John 2:19-21)?
-How can Jesus create all things (Col. 1:16-17), yet it is God who created all things by Himself (Isaiah 44:244)?
-How can Jesus search the hearts and minds of the people (Rev. 2:23)?
-Why was Jesus worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9; John 9:35-38; Heb. 1:6) when He says to worship God only (Matt. 4:10)? (same Greek word for worship is used in each place.)
-In the OT God was seen (Exodus 6:2-3; 24:9-11; Num. 12:6-9; Acts 7:2), yet no man can see God (Exodus 33:20; John 1:18). It was not the Father that was seen in the OT (John 6:46). Who, then were they seeing? see John 8:58.
-Then why did Jesus claim the divine name, "I AM", for Himself in John 8:58? see Exodus 3:14.
-Then why did Jesus say you must honor him even as you honor the Father (John 5:23)?
-Then why is it that both the Father and the Son give life (John 5:21)?
-Then why did Jesus bear witness of Himself (John 8:18; 14:6)? >>>>>>

And to conclude the matter on high note in Psalm 72.11-15 refutes all your proofs .

It is talking about Jesus there and prayer will be made for him continually .

We pray to GOD , we don't pray for GOD .

95

What Would You Like To Ask Any Poster Here?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i'd like to ask undercover why he has so many responses that are similar to what i think?.

finally free, are you really as cranky as you seem?.

OBVES

What would you do if you knew Jesus is coming on September 29,2011 ?

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com .

16

Need quote in WT literature that Bible is not enough to learn truth- help

by Gayle in

OBVES

If you go by your own way of Bible interpretation we would have so many interpretaions of the Bible ! To paraphrize it as many people as many interpret the Bible !

There are people who read the Bible for so many years that someone who begins the search for the truth should basically turn to those who have something to say about the Bible as they studied it for years.

It just happens that nowadays we can come with some proofs based on the Bible that the International Bible Students seem to have revived the defunct true christian religion that was in the period : 29 AD - 149 AD.

We can extend this period to the time of Jesus' birth which is 7 BC .Then we get 2 BC and 11 AD.

This to show that the revival of the true christian religion can be likened to the birth and appearance of Jesus Christ .

We get the corresponding dates in our times that reflect that:

1879 AD, 1884 AD .No doubt these dates are linked to the International Bible Students who revived the christian religion and we along this line and

come to Jehovah's Witnesses who by using the name Watchtower uphold what was restored .

The International Bible Students had their best period : 1914 AD - 1918 AD - 1921 AD.
Jehovah's Witnesses had their best as well : 1935 AD -1939 AD - 1942 AD.

So,we have a clear path in our search in whom to listen to.Simply put these two organizations were or approved of God and those who look for salvation should turn to them for guidance .

Now , since a new light has come out into light concerning latter-day rain there might be some individuals who could have come up with more truth to show what is going to happen in the Paradise when the true worship of God will be of an individualistic nature .

But to stay in line of God's plan those independent believers in God cannot be against the true christian organization God Yahweh approves of .

Luke 9.49-50 is a reference that serves as a proof for my individual worship of God outside of the Jehovahs Witness organization .But note I am not against them as I prove them to be true christians and pull them into the endtime process of 127-years that is a sign of Noah's days.

They have their own share in the process of building a spiritual sign of Noah's days towards the whole mankind .

So ,now since you know these facts you should not resort for help in salvation to any other organized church organization .

Simply you ignore them and speed up the process as there is a little time left .

29

They just mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses as fastest growing denomination on ABC World News

by StoneWall in

was watching abc world news and they showed the religions/denominations with most increase and those that are experiencing decreases.. the j.w.

's was number 1 on increase while most of the larger main stream churches where losing members.. they have already posted a link on the news website...will post it in just a few..

OBVES

Pentecostal church is a denial of the Bible . Once the Bible was completed there was no need for any further miracles . God used miracles to confirm His messages He was giving to His people when the Bible was being written .

Jehovah's Witnesses shine as compared to all other organized churches . The only other solution is to be on his own in faith in God just as I am doing exactly like that - Luke 9.49-50.

99

Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.

by davidl7 in

jw
friends

according to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.

this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.

roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.

OBVES

The fact they are increasing 2% or 4 % would not be surprising if we are nearing the very end of the endtime era.

Jehovah's Witnesses are right at this time the only church organization that has good standing before God of the Bible.

They can hold on fast to the date 1914 AD as it is one of the most important dates in mankind's history .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

11

2011

by d in

jw
friends

i was wondering how is 2011 going for you?

this year for me is noting starting off great.with everything from a leak roof and water problems to trying to keep my grades up for school.so tell how is your year turning out so far..

OBVES

This could be the best year for me and Jehovah's Witnesses if my prediction for September 29,2011 comes true .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com .

This is will be a very interesting year already in May as Harold Camping from http://www.familyradio.com has May 21 ,2011 as the time for Jesus' return and this news goes now full force all over the world . Just in case look on your way home if you see a billboard somewhere around with the date May 21,2011.

1093

THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

OBVES

I have been in predictions for years now and no question about it this year 2011 is the best year for the fulfillment of any prediction made for this year provided it is well founded on the Bible.

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

You cannot expect BBC,CBC to go much into details in this matter .Even for this one reason : it is too serious if it is true to proclaim it and send shock waves around the world.Another reason that is common is most people don't take any prediction of this type seriously now in a longer run .

I am talking about predictions based on the Bible.

1093

THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

OBVES

I wrote unexpectedly as the news about the coming of Jesus doesn't get the ears of many people the way it should do .

And normally all people that claim to be christians hope to be saved but most will not be saved so this most will die in this sense too.

This is not a joke as then fate of all of us will be decided very soon if the prediction turns out to be fulfilled.

This news I am proclaiming should go worldwide like wildfire ! This is a real news as fate of people is at stake and this news is based on the Bible .

1093

THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

OBVES

The biggest news today that surpasses all other news people print in newspapers is that this year we may expect the return of Jesus and the Judgement Day will begin and there are some people living today who will survive into the new world order while most will die unexpectedly .

The news is hard to swollow and many don't want to hear it very well.

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com .

The date was set up based on the Bible : September 29,2011 .

44

1914 to be abandoned around 2016

by Alfred in

the other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.

1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.

2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.

OBVES

The date 1914 AD is a crucial date in the endtime predictions .The way I see it ,it has a guaranteed place in the history for ever !

The back-up date I have is the year 2034 AD and we have 120 years from 1914 AD which could be or is another sign of Noah's time - a requirement for the return of Jusus or Judgement Day to take place.

Predictions concerning return of Jesus should be viewed as attempts to reach the summit of a mountain that is extremely difficult to get to.

And only attempts that God Yahweh approves of by His Word - the Bible count .Only true servants of God should make predictions as they use the Bible to support their predictions .

These attempts consist in using parts from the Bible in building an apparatus that is used to get to the summit of this big mountain nobody till now was able to reach.

To make sure an attempt could be successfull the old parts from the previous equipments ( attempts ) should be used .How it works ? Some details from the past predictions can be placed in a new apparatus ..

I am using dates like 1884 AD,1914 AD , 1942 AD in my new prediction .Those dates should be known to Jehovah's Witnesses . I am using the elements made by the International Bible Students and Jehovah's Witnesses they used in their attempts and that shows I see some good parts they made before.

This new prediction for September 29,2011 AD was built on my some previous predictions as well : 1991 AD,1994 AD, 1999 AD, 2004 AD.

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

I am using the improved biblical chronology made by the Watchtower to make a point in my new prediction to include the International Bible Students and Jehovah's Witnesses in the great finale ! The must be an experience of 127 years put in the new prediction and I am not 120 years old . So I must find some other people to include them in this period of 127 years.