Posts by Praotes1914

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Kingdom hall cleaning

by Farmer Jim1 in

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friends

what are your memories of hall cleaning?.

i actually enjoyed it on the whole, my dad as the elder always tried to keep it to under one hour but in my later years in a hard-line congregation it was a chore.

the po's wife had a printed list and we had to complete it all before left (or got disapproving looks if we left after an hour).. as well as vacuuming the whole building the lost said you had to dismantle the vacuum and clean and polish all the internal elements.

Praotes1914

Dear Simon

I think you’re playing into the narrative that the Jehovah’s Witness organization preaches that apostates are argumentative, secretive, territorial, and just plain assholes.

I was asked by a poster to present my story and I did it in video form. Is that a problem I was trying to establish my credentials. I was baptized in the 1970s.

What exactly are your personal credentials? Were you ever an elder? Why don’t you inform us all why you pulled such an attitude on me and made the nasty little move of removing perfectly legitimate videos that are helpful to the cause I mean, what’s your real agenda?

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Kingdom hall cleaning

by Farmer Jim1 in

jw
friends

what are your memories of hall cleaning?.

i actually enjoyed it on the whole, my dad as the elder always tried to keep it to under one hour but in my later years in a hard-line congregation it was a chore.

the po's wife had a printed list and we had to complete it all before left (or got disapproving looks if we left after an hour).. as well as vacuuming the whole building the lost said you had to dismantle the vacuum and clean and polish all the internal elements.

Praotes1914

Simon, oops, sorry that double post was an accident. I thought my other videos were on topic maybe not close enough huh? I guess I need to study your terms of service more closely. I was simply trying to give the XJW’s on here nice little short videos they could send to those who are doubting the organization.

There’s so much content on the Internet that is so offensive and negative that I tried to make my videos, very informational and objective. But if it’s against the rules to post your own stuff, I understand. if you don’t want me to post any videos on here I’ll comply, just tell me so.

Honestly, I’m just trying to help the cause. But as a newbie to posting I guess I stepped over the line? I really love your site because it’s not monetized. I will never monetize my videos if that makes you feel any better. In fact I’ll crawl back in my hole if requested. Just give me the word.

And I was wanting some feedback to make these videos more effective to help people get out of the cult. But I understand that you’ve done more to help the cause then anybody else in here so I got a respect you and what your opinion is. If you can educate me briefly on the rules, i’ll try to comply.

I was genuinely excited to present my family story because I thought people would be interested and it would help those who want to get out of the cult. But if you really want me to leave, I’ll do that too.

I know there are some YouTube creators that are charging a $10 a month subscription and I don’t really want to be associated with them so I came on here Simon. Please educate me on how I can do better and if you think my videos suck, tell me so and I’ll try to re-cut them and improve them. I say these things with all sincerity. thank you for having the site.

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Kingdom hall cleaning

by Farmer Jim1 in

jw
friends

what are your memories of hall cleaning?.

i actually enjoyed it on the whole, my dad as the elder always tried to keep it to under one hour but in my later years in a hard-line congregation it was a chore.

the po's wife had a printed list and we had to complete it all before left (or got disapproving looks if we left after an hour).. as well as vacuuming the whole building the lost said you had to dismantle the vacuum and clean and polish all the internal elements.

Praotes1914

Good idea Not Former. I need to write a book :) if you watch the video below, that’s my mother and grandmother that are that are in it. If you go and watch the video on YouTube itself and you click on the more section of the description I got a whole story in there about my father and my grandmother and me getting kicked out, etc. Don’t forget to like and subscribe! I know I can’t sing so I need somebody to re-record the classic JW song. Besides the bad singing, let me know what you think about my story in the video.

[video removed]

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Stupid dumb ass changes yet blood and 1914 no change???wtfge???

by Witness 007 in

yeah wow women can finally wear pants and men beards...but 1914 is still a date not accepted since charles russell times and blood fractions are evil!!.

are they crazy!!!

!.

Praotes1914

I don’t have a problem with 1914. It is a fact that World War I started then. Just think where Russell would’ve been if nothing happened in 1914? He would’ve been totally washed up. All they’re going to do is drop the numerology and keep the date 1914 and I don’t have a problem with that because World War I started and it was the start of the last days. what’s wrong with keeping that theology?

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Kingdom hall cleaning

by Farmer Jim1 in

jw
friends

what are your memories of hall cleaning?.

i actually enjoyed it on the whole, my dad as the elder always tried to keep it to under one hour but in my later years in a hard-line congregation it was a chore.

the po's wife had a printed list and we had to complete it all before left (or got disapproving looks if we left after an hour).. as well as vacuuming the whole building the lost said you had to dismantle the vacuum and clean and polish all the internal elements.

Praotes1914

I was so upset when I got removed as an elder For going to college and wearing a beard that I have to admit it passed my mind for a second to take a big old dump in the lobby and then leave my key in the door. Sorry I would never do that. But I thought about it and then I thought about the Sister that would have to clean up so I didn’t do it, but I did think about it. :)

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Yesterday's Public Talk: '' Reject Worldly Fantasies, Pursue Kingdom Realities''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

my brother ( an elder ) calls me every time he's assigned a public talk.

he believes listening to zoom meetings is a great start, to eventually attending in-person meetings.

the talk is titled : '' reject worldly fantasies, pursue kingdom realities.

Praotes1914

Sorry, this is a little off-topic, but I don’t know how to start a new discussion. But I’m really being bothered by

XJW grift. I’ve been going around and looking at all the XJW websites that are attempting to monetize the cult. It’s kind of sick when you think about it. I mean I’m not against people having a subscription that’s a dollar or five dollars but a $10 a month subscription like on panda tower on Patreon. Come on! What’s up with that? I mean the watchtower Society has a point. Some of these channels are playing right into the narrative of the watchtower society and what they say about apostates.

That they care more about money than people. don’t get me wrong. I think time is our most valuable possession and if you have more money, you have more time to do what you want, but if you have too much money, it ruins you too!Think about it.

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WT CONVENTION RELEASE LIFE OF JESUS

by blondie in

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friends

https://wawa-news.com/index.php/2024/06/14/episode-1-of-jesus-christ-series-set-for-release-at-gfl-memorial-gardens-june-14-16th/ .

episode 1 of jesus christ series set for release at gfl memorial gardens june 14 – 16th.

in new south wales, australia, there exist replicas of regions once visited by the most notable prophet who ever lived.

Praotes1914

I like the video simply by the fact that the sister playing Mary has such an innocent face. I mean, she looks like Mary in my mind. I think the watchtower videos will keep getting better and better. Just gotta have a little patience. They’re new at it.

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God, one person, or three?

by slimboyfat in

the trinity doctrine says god is three persons in one being.. yet the bible says god is one.. gal 3.20 a mediator, however, implies more than one party; but god is one.

niv.

gal 3.20 now a mediator is not for just one person, but god is one.

Praotes1914

I hate to be the contrarian again it’s just in my nature, but I don’t believe in the Trinity and I don’t believe in the non-Trinity I simply believe what the Bible says that there’s a father and there that there’s a son. Period. All the other dogma is simply man trying to define the undefinable if the father is really the creator of the universe with his son he’s so powerful and so magnificent that no human can understand them without simple terms as father and son, but the Priestly class wants all these technical definitions so that they can maintain control of their parishioners. My mentor Joe Riley coined the phase the Twinity. I think that pretty much sums up my theology.

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Why Do JWs Come Here to Debate?

by Victor_E in

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friends

he who has sight is blessed; he who has insight is a thousand times blessed.

what motivates jws to engage in a debate with former jws?

this question is something i have written about in years past and my hope is that it will provide some insight to the newbies.

Praotes1914

Hold on a minute. I’m not dead yet! I am just such a dinosaur. I can’t even get the avatar to load up. I did get removed as an elder, regular pioneer, and congregation secretary at a time when I was getting groomed to be a circuit overseer, But I went went to college, grew a beard and put a Christmas tree in my front window ha ha ha. It wasn’t long after that that I got a letter from Mario Marino inviting me to a committee meeting and he addressed me as Mr. and I hadn’t even been to the meeting yet so I skipped it and went out and bought some more Christmas ornaments :)

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When JW.org drops 607BCE...

by Nathan Natas in

probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

Praotes1914

Greetings! I haven’t argued with JW’s lately. I’ve been out of commission for a few decades, but I remember going on the AOL chat rooms way back and arguing with witnesses, but I’ve changed my mind. I think 1914 has some validity not for all the stupid numerology but think about it. World War I it started then. So now I think the Society is going to double down on 1914 as the start of the last days and just drop all the numerology. So what’s the big deal? 1914 was turning point in human history and this century does mark many of the things that Jesus prophesied. You can’t deny these facts. So, I hate to be the contrarian, but I like 1914. And by the way, how in the world do you get an avatar to load up? I can’t get it to work.