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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  Justia, you didn't profile, you stereotyped. Were you to actually profile as law enforcement or military profiles, you'd have backed up your profile with verifiable statistics showing how the group you described is the most likely to open carry and engage in the behavior you described.

  Given your example of how the military profiles, let's say I'm deployed on a DSCA (Defense Support to Civilian Authorities) mission following a natural disaster. Say a tornado like I was last year. My platoon is pulling security on a neighborhood that got slammed and is in ruins. We're manning checkpoints at all entrances and running patrols 24 hours to prevent looting.

  I advise my squad leaders to pass on to their soldiers to pay extra attention to the following profile: black, teens-20's, saggy pants, and 24" wheels on their Chevy sedans because they're exactly the type most would think of to loot.

  Did I just profile or did I stereotype?

  They were exactly the "type" most would think of to openly carry a weapon: white, late-30s, John Deere caps, wife-beater t-shirts, gun racks in the truck...

  I see no difference between my hypothetical "profiling" and your stereotyping and both are wrong.
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  @ Botch

  Nope, not a Ranger. Just a REMF E-5 in a State Guard unit. But the Army lets us train on and play with the fun stuff at taxpayer expense anyway.
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  Justitia, there is a high level of responsibility that comes with carrying a firearm. They outnumbered the victim and attempted to bully him both with their irresponsible display of sidearms as well as the fact that they outnumbered him. If this group of rude jerks didn't have sidearms, their behavior would still have been the same because they're a bunch of rude jerks.

  I cringe when I read stories like yours because the actions of a few reflect badly upon open carriers as a whole. Were I the victim of this, or even a witness to the incident, I'd have been raising holy hell with the Sheriff's Office and escalating it right on up the food chain in the state. Those who act so irresponsibly with firearms should face serious consequences.

  Now with that said, I found your stereotype to be offensive and it really detracted from the point you were trying to make. Your post would have stood just fine on its own without it.
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  Botch, I won't carry a sidearm whose caliber doesn't start with 4. I have very few weapons. My XD, my M4gery, and an Ithaca Model 37. If the fit hits the shan, I'll get the cool stuff but I hope it doesn't come to that.

  This from a soldier who enjoys shoulder-firing a 240bravo. Most fun you can have with your clothes on!
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  There are two types of hoplophobes.

  First type is the average everyday person. They don't own a weapon and believe that they don't need to own one. Because of this, and because they buy into what they have been programmed to believe, they don't care much at all for anyone else to own one either. So they support type #2 with their votes because type #2 supports legislation and regulations that keep them and their neighbors unarmed.

  Type #2 is the elite who is either a politician who has armed security or a private citizen who is rich enough to afford armed security. Like Rosie O'Donnell. Or the Congressmen who tried to introduce legislation cutting federal funds to states with stand your ground laws. Type #2 is the most dangerous because they have the necessary political power to do some pretty stupid s**t and because they FEAR anyone who isn't like them who owns a firearm. So they want anyone who isn't like them to be disarmed. But they'll still have armed security protecting them.

  Am I getting through any thick skulls here?
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  Botch, I used to be a 1911 purist until I got my hands on the Croatian combat tupperware that is the XD. I love it.
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  That "right" was established so that isolated settlers could protect themselves. It also relates to the militia, and the fact that private citizens may have necessarily be called upon to defend their communities in the absence of a federal military and/or police force.

  I suggest you yourself "bone up" on American history and read the writings of the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and Second Amendment instead of trying inadvertently to contradict yourself with the militia clause followed by the "fact that private citizens may have necessarily be called upon to defend their communities..."

  It has been ruled that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right.

  The Second Amendment was passed in the aftermath of a war fought against a tyrannical government that passed laws disarming the citizenry and sent troops to enforce that disarming. Among other things, of course.

  If private citizens are to defend themselves and their communities, as you acknowlege, with what are they to defend themselves if not equal or superior force against whatever threat they face? That sounds to me like you realize that private citizens face the threat of firearms, so why should they not have the right to meet that threat with equal force?
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

  1. social
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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  Talesin, have you personally purchased a firearm at a gun show?

  I have.

  What the media tells you about gun shows is a load of crap. The owners of gun shows are not fools, they are well aware of the liability involved. If you want to buy a gun at a gun show, you go through the mandated background check or walk empty-handed. At the last gun show I attended, private individuals selling firearms was a no-go. Not only does that steal business from the licensed vendors who have to fill out ATF form 4473's on every purchaser and run background checks at their own cost, it also opens the promoter up to liability issues.

  Before you attempt to inform the board at large regarding gun shows, I'd suggest you educate yourself first.

  Now with that said, if I were not legally permitted to own a firearm, could I get one? Of course I could! I'd go get one on the street same as I could get crack and meth on the street. Notice that in this case, I'm flagrantly violating the law which also prohibits me from buying crack or meth. It wouldn't be the fault of any gun show or licensed gun dealer (well except for the Fast And Furious fiasco) who sells me a firearm I'm not legally allowed to buy or possess, it would be the criminal element in society that regards gun laws with the same contempt that they regard the laws prohibiting illegal drugs, robbery, rape, murder, etc.

  Gun laws in Canada do a great job at stopping firearms traffic up 95, don't they? I'm sure all those illegal firearms are getting into the hands of law-abiding citizens who just want to protect themselves and their families, aren't they? Oh wait, no, of course not. Law-abiding citizens are disarmed because THEY OBEY THE LAW.
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  Would you support "Open Carry" legislation in your state?

  by Glander in

  1. social
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  many states have such laws.

  it is being considered in many others.

  if legal, would you openly carry a firearm?.

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  NCO

  I live in Georgia, which is a licensed carry state. With a Georgia Weapons License, one can carry openly or concealed. I have carried a sidearm for many years and have only had to draw it once. It was a 4-on-1 encounter. Had I not moved to cover and drawn my sidearm, I would have been robbed and likely put in the hospital or even killed.

  That was back when I used to only carry concealed. For the last 4 years I have joined the open carry movement. I openly carry my sidearm everywhere I am legally able to. It's a Springfield Armory XD .45 5" tactical. Not a small sidearm at all. I have yet to have one single person object. On the contrary, I have had people come up to me and ask questions about the law and how they can also legally (emphasis on legally) carry. More often than not, it has been a woman who has approached me to ask. I've sent each and every one to the county probate court to obtain their license and then to the local gun range for instruction.

  The right to keep and bear arms is uniquely American so I don't expect those who don't live here to ever understand or even agree with the tradition. Good luck with the horrible anti-self-defense laws in your own country and I hope that you and your families are never victims of the criminals who ignore gun laws the same as they ignore the laws that prohibit robbery, assault, and rape. The tired old arguments that dredge up Hollywood visions of the wild west and predict blood in the streets are intellectually dishonest in that they assume immediate lawlessness on the part of citizens who are trying to obey the law.

  A dead body robbed of hard-earned property, shot/stabbed/beaten to death and/or raped is NOT morally superior to a law-abiding citizen with a dead criminal at their feet and a smoking gun in their hand.
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  Time for an Intervention

  by NCO in

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  come this july, i will have been out of the jw's for 20 years.

  and it has been quite a long time since i've really spent any serious time studying up on jw news and doctrines although i do still read here occasionally.

  but after today looks like i've got some work to do.. my first sergeant called me this morning asking for my help to fix his dad's truck as i'm an auto technician in my civilian job.

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  NCO

  Randy, thank you for all the hard work you've put into Freeminds brother. I've sent him a link to your site.

  Morbidz, tell your BF Hooah for me!