MarkofCane

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  A faded JW about to see the Circuit overseer

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so my mum who is in and really is finding it hard that i have left and faded.

  shes asked me if i want to the the circuit overseer next week.. i have never met him and this is more my mum wanting me to get my problems i have with the organisation out.

  but should i share everything i've learnt or what?.

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  I agree don't meet. But if you have too, like I had to. I had a couple of elders hounding me, leaving messages on my phone. So i figured I would see them next time I showed up at the meeting,so I called back and accepted to meet with them and the CO, but instead of my home I said I would only meet at the Kingdom hall. They agreed and we met after the meeting. The CO asked me a number of times if there was anything he could do? If I believed the Organization was God vessel? I said yes to everything and said that we had some personal issues we are working out and needed some time and privacy to accomplish this. This kind of left him and the elders satisfied and have back off since then.

  If you decide to meet be careful not to show disagreement with any doctrine or GB agenda. Don't bring up any issue about the organization that you are questioning once you open that door they will pursue the blood trail. Choose your words wisely and say as little as possible. Watch that you don't roll your eyes or show body language that shows contempt for there intrusion on you. If you can't control yourself, then don't agree to meet.
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  The people are mobilizing Mr Drumpf

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  protesters shut down a trump rally.

  massive numbers of people are out in chicago and have shut his event down.

  there were scuffles inside the event.. despite his lame attempt to pretend the violence he instigates is nothing to do with him it's clear that it is as the cnn quotes during the last event showed only too well.. this doesn't happen at anyone else's events - candidates have even given up the stage to protesters, not called for them to be beaten and punched.. trump is an ugly person and this is just a small taste of what a future under his rule would be like.. shame on the gop for not kicking his ass out.

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  Trump is a joke, he is showing his true colors! He see's a lynch mob and run to the front of it and call's it a parade. He's delusional. So he claims he is going to destroy Isis, yet he can even handle protesters in Chicago and had to cancel the event.... Delusional.

  I liked the sign someone was holding at one of his events, " Build a wall around Trump and I will pay for it"
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  Peer Pressure amongst witnesses

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you noticed just how strong peer pressure is amongst witnesses?.

  the desire to match or better one another's "spiritual accomplishments" or decisions in life?.

  pioneering - because it is the "right" thing to do.. answering at meetings...perhaps multiple times - because it is the "right" thing to do.. choice of employment.

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  The JW life is like 'running on a hamster wheel'. Until you wake up and just stop running, they see that your wheel is no longer spinning and they want to know why?
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  Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

  by elderess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

  then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

  thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

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  John Aguila, is this YOU, but in female form? Sounds too good to be true. I hope it is true, but the long windedness and flat-out "whooper" writing style seem very similar. C'mon John, I know you're out there somewhere!

  Wingcommander

  That was some funny stuff, spit coffee all over my keyboard. Lol
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  I am losing

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.

  it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.

  the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.

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  Ya same boat. My wife is like the musicians that went down with the Titanic, playing there instruments as the ship went down. She is there because she is loyal! I've asked her to explain stuff to me and all she does is parrot what she is taught to parrot. I have stopped trying to wake her up, I just live a normal life and show her by example, that i'm not possessed by some demon or left the troof for some selfish reason. 'I left because it's lies and nonsense'.

  I am still me, the real me, no layers, no more pretentiousness..... Just me unmasked. It takes time to adjust to change and I'm giving her, her space to see and adjust as her conscience allows her. It's small increments but if you knew us 4 yrs ago you would diffidently see a difference, sometime I get frustrated because it's not fast enough and I lose sight that...... we no longer the same people. Remember it took a long time to indoctrinate us and it takes time to undo the psychological damage.
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  The impact of guilt, obligation and fear of Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i find it very sad that people have limited choices as to whether they wish to stay or leave watchtower.

  many are simply held captive as a result.

  fear of losing family and friends being the biggest factor.

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  Russell said it best "religion is a snare and a racket" First they snare you in there trap of fear, obligation and guilt then they scam (racket) you of your life, money & freedom.
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  Our COBE(Coordinator Of Body of Elders) Cried at the Kingdom Hall

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was announced recently, that "bro.

  z is no long the coordinator(76 years old), bro y(60) is now the new coordinator of the body of elders".. you see, bro.

  z has been an elder for 43 years and 35 of them as the cobe/po.

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  Sad realization of his worth when he no longer meets there standards. "They waltz you in, suck you dry and spit you out." The life inside a cult nothing else like it.
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  Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

  by elderess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

  then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

  thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

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  Went on vacation just me and the wife. Snuck into the bathroom to check my emails and peek over here. Wow made my day. My vacation just got a kick start. You know the reason a lot of us come here is for this very reason, no other motive just to help and support those needing unconditional support. You are the lucky one. Figured it all out and as a couple are about to escape together, no better ending will you read on this site. Brovo. Freedom awaits you both I'm still sneaking around but your story gives me hope.
  

  Thanks
  
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  How to spot faders or "closeted" apostates in a congregation / meeting?

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am awoken for several years now (never really bought the cool aid) but for family reasons i am still enduring everything.

  but my wife knows ... .

  anyway so yesterday we had this boring meeting and as i was sitting there trying to make time pass faster i looked around me and i thought who else feels the same as me and is completely bored?

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  Hey James Mixon
  

  That's me to the tee. I'm giving myself away apperantly. Lol
  
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  How to spot faders or "closeted" apostates in a congregation / meeting?

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am awoken for several years now (never really bought the cool aid) but for family reasons i am still enduring everything.

  but my wife knows ... .

  anyway so yesterday we had this boring meeting and as i was sitting there trying to make time pass faster i looked around me and i thought who else feels the same as me and is completely bored?

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  That's a tough one. With so many that are indifferent anymore it hard to spot a real soldier. We made some new friends since my fading and my wife took to them as well, if you met them you would definitely assume they are awake. I threw them some bait once and they spouted the normal JW garbage, they might of pretended just to throw us off in case we were...... on to them. We are a sneaky class ain't we.....