MarkofCane

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  Live in the U.S.? Tune into Dateline Friday evening, April 15th, to see a report about the Colorado Candelario murder trial (he's a JW).

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  ralph and pam candelario were active jws in colorado.

  ralph murdered pam.

  professor jim penton was invited to appear at the trial last month by the prosecution as an expert witness to answer questions about jws.

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  nbc.com/dateline/video/tangled/3017009

  Here's the entire video, also sent it to my wife. My way of waking her up to this crazy cult.
  
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  JW Story on Dateline this Friday

  by ShirleyW in

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  pam candelario, ralph candelario, dateline nbc: colorado man killed second wife, first wife still missing.

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  the title of an article in the inqusitr, i get the google alerts for the dubs, but this site for some reason i couldn't do a cut and paste, anyway, if you're interested to see why one of jehovahs loyal servants would kill his 1st and 2nd wives it's supposed to be broadcast this friday at 10pm est..

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  nbc.com/dateline/video/tangled/3017009

  
  

  Here's the Dateline link
  
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  I have tried really hard to be worldly, for ten years, tried to get worldly friends, and get back with family.

  by Sledracer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am so bad at being worldly, it's not like i gave it a good try, we are just not good at it my husband and i, i see him light up as he has started to read the bible again.

  i'm good at being a witness, i am accepted, and hold the same beliefs, i have tried to find somewhere else, if there is a place, why hav'n't jehovah and the angels directed me to it?

  thank you for all the loving posts, some of them have been just what i needed.

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  Leaving a cult after devoting all your life to it is hard, I agree! I took me some time to figure out how to be Me! The person I was in the cult was not me, I had to fight the real me all my life. The person I am today is the real me, the product of my ancestral DNA, yet unique.

  The bOrg uses a lot of control phrases or words like spiritual, guided by the spirit or guided by the flesh and Worldly. They use them to keep you trapped and enslaved to a ideology that's crumbling around them, if they can control your mind they can control you. This is not new all religions use fear and control words like Hell, Armageddon, purgatory, death & paradise to keep you subjected to them. Its time to stop being abused and empower yourself with knowledge, educate yourself about the real world, religions, world history, evolution, science this will release the bonds of superstition and religion.

  Just be yourself and strive to make the world a better place, people will gravitate to you, but you have to put yourself out there. We are so damaged by our thinking about people that we shrink back from friendships and new experiences, we are the ones that need to learn to assimilate with mankind again.
  
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  Anybody remember those brothers that would harass, and hound the elders into making them, finally, appoint him as an elder himself?

  by Dunedain in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  lol, for some reason, i was thinking back to all the many "characters" that were often so prevalent in kingdom halls back in the day.

  they are, i am sure, still there now, but fortunately i haven't been in a kh for like 20 years.. anyway, i remembered this one brother, who was dying to be made an elder.

  he could not believe he wasn't an elder yet, after sooo many years.

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  I for one avoided the conversation where they tried to pressure me or encourage me to do more to become a elder. I've always owned my own business and even when I tried to simplify it seamed like it took all I had to make meetings and service, maybe deep inside I had my doubts.

  Anyways, their were some in my Hall that dint have the qualifications to be a elder, they kiss so much ass to be appointed. I remember this one fellow who's "Elder" father came down from another state to question why his son was not made a elder yet? After much pressuring and ass kissing they made him a elder, he turned into a little Gestapo, he would snitch on anybody if it gave him a leg up. There were some who really bought into the whole thing but most just wanted the status.
  
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  I went to see my Dr about the blood card issue

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i booked a double appointment so that she wouldn't be rushed.

  i explained that i'd been brought up in the jw's and woken up to what a load of shite it was.

  i explained that they have changed the blood card and that the elders in the cong are being told to effectively force people into signing it.

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  I have never been forced or coerced to sign a death card ever. But if they implement this new rule where they want a card on file for each member as indicated in another post it could out faders who are not ready to come out. In my case, I will tell them I will not be signing anything regarding my medical records unless your my physician which you clearly are not. That's kind of end of discussion.

  Now If your in good standing going to all the meeting, field service and participating in the school then you have created a conundrum for yourself. In there minds you are their slave still and need to comply. I have indicated by my absence that their rules are unimportant and I will not comply. I'm not df or da, most shun me and I shun them. I do believe I have made it perfectly clear where I stand without really saying a word.

  The Only power they have is the power you bestow upon them.
  
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  Last night's talk re sisters wearing head covering, puke making!

  by purrpurr in

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  dear sisters,.

  when you are fortunate enough to be in the presence of a jw penis you must take care to show the proper respect for it!

  doesn't matter if said penis is prepubescent!

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  The reference made about penis is not made in derogatory way. It sarcasm about the silliness of a controlling cult we at one time adhered too. It about as silly as the teaching that a women can rule with Christ as a anointed but cant pray among a baptized male, just because he has a penis. I never understood this, it seemed so stupid even when I believed it wholeheartedly.
  
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  NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

  the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

  this is huge.

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  I got rid of my death card awhile back. If they try that shit with me they might need to use their blood card sooner then they wised.
  
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  Lame and werid sample presentations at the meeting

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  they used to let bro's and sis's do the sample presentation and give them the leeway to put it in their own words thereby making it more natural.

  not so anymore!

  these days the sample presentations are beamed from mother website.. they seem to have been written by someone who has no experience of how people talk in real life.

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  I don't think the presentation form the society are for the householder, I believe it's to further indoctrinate the Rank and File. It's to make them feel good about a total failure referred to as "The field ministry".
  
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  Last night's talk re sisters wearing head covering, puke making!

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear sisters,.

  when you are fortunate enough to be in the presence of a jw penis you must take care to show the proper respect for it!

  doesn't matter if said penis is prepubescent!

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  Man made religion, written by men, taught by man and enforced by men. Does anyone really think God wrote this stuff. I'm surprised the JW's don't suggest women walk two feet behind said penis. How many women would stick around if they mandated women wear a burka head covering?

  It so totally a Cult
  
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  Special talk outline or highlights?

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i apologize if this has already been covered but i've actually had a really busy, fun weekend with friends and family and i haven't been online.

  that being said, i missed the special talk yesterday.

  does anyone have the outline or highlights of the talk?

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  It was yesterday April 3rd. My wife comes home from meeting and says " you know you missed the special talk?" I said "wasn't it just an over zealous recruiting session for the memorial victims?" She just rolled her eyes at me.