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  I came here three years ago for support and to make friends

  by KateWild in

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  this site is such a great and valuable resource and simon is to be commended for running it for so long.

  when i first came i was in such a bad state and really needed support and friendship.

  so many posters commented on my threads and showed genuine care some are real life friends, some are facebook friends, some i talk to on the phone and some are forum friends.. i have just realised though that everyone online is not your friend.

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  DJS

  I think that was one of the kindest posts ive read from you in a long time....you do have a heart.
  
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  I came here three years ago for support and to make friends

  by KateWild in

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  this site is such a great and valuable resource and simon is to be commended for running it for so long.

  when i first came i was in such a bad state and really needed support and friendship.

  so many posters commented on my threads and showed genuine care some are real life friends, some are facebook friends, some i talk to on the phone and some are forum friends.. i have just realised though that everyone online is not your friend.

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  Hi Kate

  Interesting perceptive on internet forums. I guess I never really considered making friends online, considering i'm trying to remain anonymous and all. My main reason for coming here has been for support and helping new one lurking unsure 'what it is they are reading'. There are so many things going through a persons head when they first arrive, they are troubled and confused, depressed and angry. Then they go back to meeting and they are beat up some more...I know because I/we went through it. You feel like you are getting beat up from both sides, until it just clicks. Slowly thing become clearer and you realize you have been a victim of a cult, sometime no fault of our own just unfortunate to be born into it.

  ExJW sites are life saving and life changing....I owe a lot to this site especially, since it was the first one I landed on and finally woke. I must say, I don't agree with half the stuff that I read here and I don't feel the need to comment or debate on every subject on this forum. What I do like is the diverse perspective's and ideas that are shared on this site and other like it, by people that sat in a KH and where subjected to the same life choices as me because of there alliance to a mind control cult. We are inescapably connected because of the cards we were dealt. This has become incredibly obvious to me as i read more and more experiences and think to myself........"he lived my life"........"that is me"........"do I know that person?" And sometimes I have thought "I would of liked, to known that person as a friend, we would of got along".

  I guess what I'm trying to say is don't feed some much into it, its not healthy. Its just a online forum with different individuals with different life experiences who you will not always agree with. Just like in real life you wouldn't invite everyone you meet to your home?..........its the same here.

  Hope the best for you and your journey.
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  But where else should we go? Can you answer this question?

  by purrpurr in

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  having watched many jc youtube videos one question that gets asked is "where else would you go?".

  in other words if not jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?.

  it's one that i have trouble answering, what would you say?.

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  It think that they are basically asking "If this is not the truth, then what is?" "What will I use to fill that place in my thoughts that were occupied by the WTBTS teachings, since i have been taught that every other belief is false"

  This is the point..... once you have found that every other belief is false and use that same method on the Watchtower society. Then you are left with only one option. All religion is false.......their is no God.

  Therefore where else should we go is a fallacy, cult speak.....MIND CONTROL. Free your mind from this type of thinking its remnants of mind control.
  
  
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  " you will never grow old..."

  by mrquik in

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  " you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

  i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

  i heard it many times after that.

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  Bigdummy

  I feel you, my wife has come around big time but still hold out just in case it is the truth. I have told her you need to do your own research and it will become clear as day. She is hesitate to go on apostate websites.

  My sister and her husband were in town for a visit the other day, they are completely in, extreme bunker type.

  She said that"a brother is her hall stopped going to the meeting" he was the PO of their hall. I asked her what happened to him? She said "he started looking at apostate sites and left the truth".

  Me: I wonder what he read that drastically changed his view of the truth?

  Her: It doesn't matter what he seen the counsel is never look at these sites they will instill doubts in you and you will certainly leave, not because of what you read but because you were unloyal to Jehovah.

  Me: Or maybe it was just what he read?

  She ended the conversation their, she just thinks we are spiritually weak and need encouragement. But doubt is what I served up. Poor sister she has a good heart but so delusional.
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  " you will never grow old..."

  by mrquik in

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  " you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

  i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

  i heard it many times after that.

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  Nice Village...did you write this?
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  " you will never grow old..."

  by mrquik in

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  " you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.

  i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.

  i heard it many times after that.

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  You know I really don't care what they preach, if people want to believe it then let them. My problem is how they deal with those that decide it's all bullshit! You should be able to say to anyone, who wants to listen "its a destructive cult and its all lies". Look at all the lies they have been spewing since the 1800, they are the epitome of a false prophet here the proof, look at all the pedophile issues happening in the congregations, on and on we could go...but no we are threatened with losing our families if we speak the TRUTH. That's what infuriates me about this destructive controlling CULT.
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  How the Kevin Class started...

  by Stumpy in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djtu_mozj5y.

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  There must be empty chairs in the Kingdom hall.

  
  

  My reality.
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  What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?

  by Darkknight757 in

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  i have a question.

  yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.

  this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.

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  Gulf coaster said: My mother thrives on doom and gloom, so the cult is perfect for her.

  My mom is the same, all she talks about is the end is eminent! You change the subject and she steers it right back to the end is at hand. Holy shit I started to just avoid her calls it tiresome. My poor mom she is almost 80 yrs old and all her dreams and desires are a lie. Once she is gone I will become very vocal about how I feel and will not hold back, gloves are coming off.
  
  
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  What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?

  by Darkknight757 in

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  i have a question.

  yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.

  this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.

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  MarkofCane

  If we tell them life is great, everything is great, they will suddenly see that we are not "with them", not even "in spirit" let alone in person, and we suddenly become "worldly", or worse -- apostate. Even more so if we say anything negative about their precious JW concepts. They see it as we've lost our way and lost our faith and chosen The World over The Troof. We are no longer "victims" (as they see themselves) in this rotten old system of things. Rather, we've embraced the rotten old system and are loving it.

  So true, I bet my whole congregation will think of us when they see the bunker videos. "Where's Kevin?" "He no longer wants anything to do with us." That video is designed to cast a dark cloud over inactive ones... we are bird food, in their minds.

  I recently spoke to a old friend who is in my old congregation, he was going on and on about being tired and burned out.....so I said " honestly, since I stopped going to the meeting my stress level has disappeared, my anxiety is almost gone.....their was just to much guilt and pressure to be, just so." He went quiet and thought about it for a while ....then said. "But we are so close to the end", we were interrupted and so changes subjects.

  A lot of people are waking up and it starts with a few kind words.
  
  
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  WT acually truthful in today's text!

  by Sanchy in

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  ...hope to enjoy everlasting life and witness the resurrection, things unseen by the world.

  like the philosophers of paul’s day who called him an ignorant “chatterer,” most people today think that the hope we preach is sheer nonsense.

  (acts 17:18) .

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  Kevin said the same thing. "Sheer nonsense!"