Posts by ofcmad

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JUSTICE #14 - Caring for the Needy - Not!

by Amazing in

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caring for the needy not!

when i first became a jw in the late 1960s and all the years thereafter, the watch tower society would frequently boast about the loving care and concern that jws show among themselves, providing for the needy during disasters, even helping the world.

the society would publish in the magazines, or comments at conventions about how the world observed our efficiency and overwhelming spirit of giving.. what about the rest of the year?

ofcmad

ITguy--
You read it in the latest Awake 22,2001. It was about Kobe, Japan. And lets not overdo the charitable love. It was ONE van, and it doesn't mention anything about repeat visits to the hospital.
The title of the little highlight is "To the Rescue in Kobe!". Yeah, they rescued theirs first and gave the dogs the little crumbs that fell off the table.

This article makes me sick. It first promotes or should I say, gives advertising space to the UN for recruiting volunteers. And in the next few articles it gives examples of JW's who give for a hidden agenda -- to recruit people to the "organization". For example, in the same article it talks about the brothers in Kabezi. They built a kingdom hall. The "local administrator made an unusual request. He asked if the Witnesses could fix the road passing BY the proposed construction site." Well ofcourse they "happily" agreed to repair the damaged roadway. Well, it's not unusal that they would need to fix a road that takes them to the Kingdom Hall. They have to make sure that it is not going to cause a hinderance in travel to the KH. So is this REALLY charitable work? Or was it necessary work to make sure the KH was more accessible?

Hidden Agenda...Hidden Agenda.

Ofcmad

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My apeal of disfellowshiping letter

by D wiltshire in

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the first question is:.

i ask you would paul even think of doing such as thing as the wt has done here?????

i asked them not to keep double-talking me but to just come out and say what the charges are.

ofcmad

D--
I admire your attitude. LOL

Unless it's different in the Hall you attended, all APOSTATES AND INGRATES would sit in the back of the hall. I love the fact that you showed that they didn't even have control of where you sat!

ofcmad

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More on JW "Confidential Files"

by Bendrr in

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i had a conversation last night with an old friend (not a jw) and brought up the subject of my file.. we discussed how to obtain the file.

needless to say, over a few beers it got very interesting with drawings and maps.. when he left i phoned another old friend in the town in question and told him briefly about the discussion.. he said to hold off on any "operation" because he knew someone i could talk to.

since he was on a cell phone, he didn't want to talk much.

ofcmad

Bendrr--
Take it from me. It's not worth it. Ok, so you get the files illegally. What would they read? Probably your time cards would be in it. Because with instructions from the Society, the elders can't write down jack-crap because it opens them up to litagation.
Yeah, it may see like a 'cool' idea now, but would you have the money to fight a criminal and civil case. They already have high-priced lawyers on retainer. And God knows how a public defender would fit into that picture. And I can tell that your plan has already failed for the below mentioned reasons:
1. When committing a crime, do it alone. You can NEVER trust the mouth of your friends.
2. You've posted it on the internet. Don't think that people like the Fred Hall's would grab copies of this post, and the WBTS would research it with the KH's.
3. Something that funny, couldn't be kept silent. I.E., see #1 and #2. Never plan a crime over a couple of beers.
4. Fingerprints can be retrieved off paper, bricks, the interior of latex gloves, ect.
5. Cops especially HATE people who screw with churches, they are considered the lowest of the low. They will do whatever it takes to find the person who did it. You'd have to maintain your silence for at least 7 years.

Trust me, they are not worth the time.

Ofcmad

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Please Respond To Survey! 25 more needed please.

by Big Jim in

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it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?

for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .

thanks.

ofcmad

First, I was raised into it, along with my other 5 siblings. Only one sibling is still a JW, along with my wacko parents.
As for growth, I think it was Larc who said this:

I think that the "growth" also includes those that have left, and then for lack of a life, had returned. And remember, they are not having the same amount of growth as the Mormons. I think that Time magazine said they were growing at 11%. (I think it's more, but can't remember off hand)
ofcmad

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United Nations Getting A Little On The Side...

by messenger in

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i find it interesting the new found love the wt appears to have for the un.

in the two latest articles, july 22, awake and august 1, wt, they make reference to the good policies of the un and it's universal declaration of human rights.

as my memory serves, the harlot represents babylon the great (aka, false religion, aka, all religion except jw's) that commits fornication with the wild beast (aka, un representing all kingdoms of the earth) does this bring on a "new light" adjustment in wt doctrine?

ofcmad

AGuest--
Wow-- another change! I am so excited to learn that the UN has taken as step down from "the image of the wild beast" to the "disgusting thing". (Revelation! p.195 pp.31/ 1988 edition) Yikes. They may have to now do another reprint of the Revelation book.
I wonder-- has anyone written a comparision of the prophesies outlined in their latest Daniel book and the older version of the Revelation! book? I would really love to see how they contradict themselves within a 14 year time period.
The PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN!!

ofcmad

23

I confess!

by noidea in

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i'm here to confess.

i've been lurking for some time now.

i have allot of mixed feelings mostly feelings of loss.

ofcmad

You are so on the right path. I can really empathize with you. I left because I just couldn't go on being a hypocrit anymore. I couldn't live with that. The thing is, is that I left without the "help" of any apostates. I KNEW in my heart that something was lacking in my relationship with Jehovah. For me, I realized it was the relationship with Christ that I was missing.
Jehovah will definitely direct your life. He has shown you already, which is the biggest step, that you have the relationship with HIM, not some manmade organization.
God bless you. He is there for you.

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United Nations Getting A Little On The Side...

by messenger in

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friends

i find it interesting the new found love the wt appears to have for the un.

in the two latest articles, july 22, awake and august 1, wt, they make reference to the good policies of the un and it's universal declaration of human rights.

as my memory serves, the harlot represents babylon the great (aka, false religion, aka, all religion except jw's) that commits fornication with the wild beast (aka, un representing all kingdoms of the earth) does this bring on a "new light" adjustment in wt doctrine?

ofcmad

Isn't it amazing how well the WBTS puckers up when ready to kiss asses? Yeah, there is ALWAYS some sort of hidden agenda when the WBTS puckers up to "worldly" organizations.

Ofcmad

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The "Theocratic" View

by Jigrigger in

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how many of you ex-jws can recall a particular instance during your life as a jw when you or someone you know had a mini crisis of conscience over what you now, upon reflection, consider to be the most trivial or petty in nature?.

i've got a good one for you.

i remember my mom and one of my aunts engaged in a very serious debate about whether they should feed a freshly caught mouse to the cat because it hadn't been properly bled!!!.

ofcmad

LMAO!!
I can remember all the small crisis of conscience matters. Try an arguement with a ms because he was inviting me and my sister, with parental consent, to go see "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" with his wife.
Or the crisis of conscience I had when another sister was wearing a miniskirt in school...Oh yes, I had to run and tattletale to my mother. My mother called up her's and said that it was inappropriate clothing. (what my mother was corrected upon by that sister was that her daughter had her menstral cycle and had an accident, forcing her to wear a skirt that an associate had available).. I felt like a putz.
Or the multiple times that I cheated on my time sheets.. or the multiple times that I failed to study for the meetings...
Silly guilt.

ofcmad

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When did you think Armageddon would come?

by comment in

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i was just thinking about this.

having been raised "in the truth" post-1975, i didn't grow up with any specific year in mind.

yes, there was the notion of "this generation will by no means pass away," but by the time i was old enough to think about that concept, the people who were born in 1914 (to stretch it out as far as possible, as the society ultimately did) were still only in their 60's.

ofcmad

Ahh.. the memories...
I remember when I was about 15 or so, laying down on my livingroom floor. I was drawing a map of Paul's travels for one of the elders so he could use it in his talk. As I was trying to figure out where Macedonia was to be placed, I heard Pres. Bush announce that they would be invading the east (Desert Storm/Desert Shield, can't remember exactly which one.) The reason why I can't remember was because my hand started shaking. Yes, I was terrified that was the beginning of the end. I believed I would die at Armaggeddon. The HORROR! THE HORROR!! THE PAIN!! THE PAIN!!
Who was I to think that about 10 years later, I would still be here, the world would still be here, and the "generation" of 1914 is mostly dead.
ofcmad

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News About H2O - I'm Ducking <LOL>

by Jang in

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ok ... i am ducking first ...... .

great news!.

i just visited the h2o forum and it has been upgraded with removal of.

ofcmad

Sorry if I am opening old wounds here -- but what exactly caused the split? I was just getting into the old h20 before the server was starting to have real difficulties. And then it was like a bomb went off. Some posters went here, some others started posting in other posting boards. What on God's green earth happened?

Ofcmad