when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.
i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.
i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.
Now, to address why WT doesn’t go get govt money to offer social service is because (1) they don’t need it, and (2) they are not a social service organization or have any social services arms.
That’s like asking why doesn’t the Red Cross go get govt funding to open bloodless surgery hospitals.
That’s not what they do.
when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.
i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.
i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.
Yes, I am very happy to admit I was wrong in my speculation.
when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.
i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.
i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.
Sanchy,
Calm the heck down. Re read my post. I said “it stands to REASON”, meaning, you can draw a logical conclusion. I didn’t make a factual statement. I also used the word “probably”, meaning I am speculating. I am happy to admit that.
Thank you.
when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.
i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.
i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.
You did not comprehend my post.
I did not say that taking government money was wrong. I was simply saying that taking government money, and opening social programs with that money, doesn’t make you charitable.
when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.
i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.
i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.
For those trying to prop up the Mormons and SDAs for their alleged giving back, it stands to reason that social programs are being funded by the government, not tithes:
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/30/opinion/using-tax-dollars-for-churches.html
https://www.hhs.gov/answers/grants-and-contracts/what-are-the-rules-on-funding-religious-activity-with-federal-money/index.html
So if this funding wasn’t available, would they provide those social services to their congregants, or anyone who’s not a memeber? Probably not.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Please, morph.
I stated a FACT. Go ahead, peruse any exjw forum/blog and in very short order, you’ll see them claiming they’re “not free to leave” for the simple FACT they are restricted in their association with jw family and friends if they want to formally leave.
Go ahead...
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Morph,
Yes I know you from nowhere. My post wasn’t based on whether or not I know you — it was based on your it’s “not a free choice” assertion.
It’s the same universal argument made by ex jws. If there are no restrictions after being sanctioned, they say it’s a free choice. If there are restrictions, they say it’s not a free choice.
Unfortunately, life simply doesn’t work that way. Sanctions by nature carry certain restrictions. If there are no restrictions, sanctions have literally no purpose.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Please, I was an ex jw for 10 years. I just realized that choices have consequences, both good and bad, and you HAVE to live with them. That’s what you’re ignoring. That’s life. I accepted those consequences and I was fine while I was out.
You don’t want to accept those consequences. That’s why you say it’s not a “free” choice.
Once you recognize and accept that fact, you will make smart decisions.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Pale E.
Tons of word salad there. That’s what happens when you are trying to hold two contradictory views at once. We call that cognitive dissonance. You are definitely exhibiting that.
Yes a black-and-white definition is definitely required when you’re attempting to explain a fact. If you’re not attempting to explain a fact, then you’re making my point that “indoctrination” has many made up definitions depending on what ex-[insert religion here] member you’re talking to.
Either JW‘s are free to choose, or they’re not.
Period.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
There is not such category of “the wrong people” the “society” deems are an offense that is subject to sanctioning if jws associate with them.
Ex-jws only fall under that category for potential sanctions.
