Posts by Doubter

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

IFT

Take that up with the IRS. They granted WT tax-free status. If you think they are not meeting the requirements, then it should be easy to have their tax-status revoked.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

Well, you’re partially correct, dubby. They don’t have any social programs that help people in that regard.

They do not need them. Jws take care of themselves and each other. They only require the organization for their religious doctrine/training.

Why do you want them depending on the org for sustenance?

Will that only increase the alleged “control” you seem to loathe so much?

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

I actually am entertained. Quite honestly, it is fascinating to me how alleged long-time ex-jws don’t appear (or at least play dumb to scare the public) to understand basic stuff all of a sudden.

That is really fascinating. I can’t get that anywhere else.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

Now, to address why WT doesn’t go get govt money to offer social service is because (1) they don’t need it, and (2) they are not a social service organization or have any social services arms.

That’s like asking why doesn’t the Red Cross go get govt funding to open bloodless surgery hospitals.

That’s not what they do.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

Yes, I am very happy to admit I was wrong in my speculation.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Calm the heck down. Re read my post. I said “it stands to REASON”, meaning, you can draw a logical conclusion. I didn’t make a factual statement. I also used the word “probably”, meaning I am speculating. I am happy to admit that.

Thank you.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

You did not comprehend my post.

I did not say that taking government money was wrong. I was simply saying that taking government money, and opening social programs with that money, doesn’t make you charitable.

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How Long Before They Introduce Tithing?

by pale.emperor in

when i was a full-on believing jw i had an obsessive fascination with mormonism.

i read, studied and watched their propaganda with strange interest as well as their apostate mormon books.

i have to say, they have a good scam going claiming that "the lord reintroduced tithing" in the modern age.

Doubter

For those trying to prop up the Mormons and SDAs for their alleged giving back, it stands to reason that social programs are being funded by the government, not tithes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/30/opinion/using-tax-dollars-for-churches.html

https://www.hhs.gov/answers/grants-and-contracts/what-are-the-rules-on-funding-religious-activity-with-federal-money/index.html

So if this funding wasn’t available, would they provide those social services to their congregants, or anyone who’s not a memeber? Probably not.

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

Doubter

Please, morph.

I stated a FACT. Go ahead, peruse any exjw forum/blog and in very short order, you’ll see them claiming they’re “not free to leave” for the simple FACT they are restricted in their association with jw family and friends if they want to formally leave.

Go ahead...

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

Doubter

Morph,

Yes I know you from nowhere. My post wasn’t based on whether or not I know you — it was based on your it’s “not a free choice” assertion.

It’s the same universal argument made by ex jws. If there are no restrictions after being sanctioned, they say it’s a free choice. If there are restrictions, they say it’s not a free choice.

Unfortunately, life simply doesn’t work that way. Sanctions by nature carry certain restrictions. If there are no restrictions, sanctions have literally no purpose.