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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
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  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  Indeed. I truthfully never had a desire to live at bethel. Never.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  I wouldn’t want to live at Bethel, having to quit my job, and leave home, if I did not have anything in writing from watchtower.

  No contract = no evidence of their obligations to you.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  Lol

  We live in a world where contracts are a necessity. It would be foolish and irresponsible for any organization not to have them when people live on the property of said organization.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  PE,

  Basically what I am saying is that putting stuff in writing projects them from frivolous lawsuits. It also prevents WT from reneging on their obligations if the applicant is not in breach.

  This is just basic stuff.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  PE,

  Ok jws have been around for 90 something years. Experience has taught them that putting stuff in writing protects against people who lie and make stuff up.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  People will not agree with my above post, but jws have been around for 140 years. Experience tells them (and also tells society as a whole) that without having stuff in writing, people can lie and make stuff up, and as long as it sounds plausible, it will be believed when there are no records or signatures to disprove it.

  Every organization is obligated to protect itself. WT is no different in that regard.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  Lol — Of course they put in it writing. Then no one can come back and claim they didn’t “know” what they were getting into, or that they were “tricked”.

  Its a pesticide against alleged ignorance.

  You’d do it to if it you ran an organization.
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Doubter

  Sanchy, You’re on right path, after refusing to acknowledge they were not all the same.

  Now since you know the basics, we can proceed.

  The charter you posted and quoted said nothing about DPI NGOs supporting the UN as the pathway to peace and security.

  It was what YOU provided.
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Doubter

  Sanchy,

  All NGOs aren’t even the same? Why are you ignoring this? Does it matter?

  http://research.un.org/en/ngo

  Please don’t cop out and say “it doesn’t matter because a even JW walking into the UN building is inappropriate and blasphemous”.

  Its lame and subjective take.
  
  
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  Doubter

  Let me revisit my statement. They didn’t directly thank the guardian after re reading it, they instead said they were grateful it was brought to their attention.