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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
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  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  Oh yeah, “indoctrination” is another code word for “forced”.

  Forgot about that!
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  84

  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  FR

  In reality, that’s freedom of association as well. What, just because its family members it doesn’t apply? If it doesn’t, why not?
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  84

  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  Doubter

  And pale Emperor,

  The freedom of speech crap only flies when the government intervenes and tries to throw you in jail for what you say. It does not apply to private organizations

  I think you know this.
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  84

  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  Doubter

  PE,

  and jws have the freedom to decided who are members and who are not. That’s also freedom of association.
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  84

  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  Doubter

  FR,

  Pressure and family expectations are a part of life. It happens in every facet of the secular world. Deal with it or go live on Mars.
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  84

  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Doubter

  Now, just for the record, when there are no sanctions for not going to Bethel, it is by default, volunteering.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Doubter

  Yep, and now you’ve just basically lost the discussing comparing volunteering with modern day slavery.

  When people have no argument, they resort to hyperbolic cliches.

  lol — its sad, yet, funny.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Doubter

  In fact, the word “forced” was used in this very thread in reference to Bethel applicants.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  2. 
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  Doubter

  Ok fair, neither of you said that. But inevitably, in reference to Goodwin’s law, discussions with ex-jws comes down to being ultimately “forced” and “brainwashed” into “volunteering” (which are contradictions) to serve as an elder or going to bethel.

  So forgive me for attempting to cut that nonsense off before it begins.
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Doubter

  Advice: don’t go to bethel. Your mistake.

  Humor me: tell me how you were mysteriously “forced” to read, agree to, and sign up to attend Bethel.