former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Nonsense. I am not talking about the dictionary definition of the term. I’m referring to the way it’s used by “anti cultists” of all stripes — to refer to the condition of a person not having a choice being “forced” in essence, via “brainwashing”.
Seriously, I suspect you know what mean.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Oh yeah, “indoctrination” is another code word for “forced”.
Forgot about that!
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
FR
In reality, that’s freedom of association as well. What, just because its family members it doesn’t apply? If it doesn’t, why not?
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
And pale Emperor,
The freedom of speech crap only flies when the government intervenes and tries to throw you in jail for what you say. It does not apply to private organizations
I think you know this.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
PE,
and jws have the freedom to decided who are members and who are not. That’s also freedom of association.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
FR,
Pressure and family expectations are a part of life. It happens in every facet of the secular world. Deal with it or go live on Mars.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Now, just for the record, when there are no sanctions for not going to Bethel, it is by default, volunteering.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Yep, and now you’ve just basically lost the discussing comparing volunteering with modern day slavery.
When people have no argument, they resort to hyperbolic cliches.
lol — its sad, yet, funny.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
In fact, the word “forced” was used in this very thread in reference to Bethel applicants.
former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
Ok fair, neither of you said that. But inevitably, in reference to Goodwin’s law, discussions with ex-jws comes down to being ultimately “forced” and “brainwashed” into “volunteering” (which are contradictions) to serve as an elder or going to bethel.
So forgive me for attempting to cut that nonsense off before it begins.
