LostintheFog1999

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  Depiction of Governing Body on JW org

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a topic was started over at reddit directing people's attention to a depiction on jw.org of the governing body.

  it's not in their publication, only on the website under the topic of "what is the governing body?

  but who are these guys in the depiction?.

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  LostintheFog1999

  Yeah, the picture only shows the top half of the men seated around the table.

  We can't see how many of them are wearing tight pants below the table's level.
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  Stress of Going to a Summer Convention

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  spotted this picture on a friend's page, he was highlighting the mental health issue.

  however,we thought the magazine on stress was deliberately placed in the summer months because for any jw going to a convention, paying high season hotel rates for themselves or their whole family to stay near the convention centre, fighting coworkers and managers to get the time off work, travelling expenses, buying their own meals for the family, buying new shiny suits and dresses to impress (particularly if you have teenage girls who are looking for their prince), and more.... by the time they come home again and straight away back to work, their nerves will be so frazzled that their stress levels will have sky rocketed!.

  as brother elder says to them, "don't worry.

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  LostintheFog1999

  Spotted this picture on a friend's page, he was highlighting the mental health issue.

  However,we thought the magazine on STRESS was deliberately placed in the summer months because for any JW going to a convention, paying high season hotel rates for themselves or their whole family to stay near the convention centre, fighting coworkers and managers to get the time off work, travelling expenses, buying their own meals for the family, buying new shiny suits and dresses to impress (particularly if you have teenage girls who are looking for their prince), and more...

  By the time they come home again and straight away back to work, their nerves will be so frazzled that their stress levels will have sky rocketed!

  As brother Elder says to them, "Don't worry. Here's the magazine to take away all your worries about the debt you have incurred, and find relief from stress. Just read it!"

  Lol. I'm glad that is all in the past for me nowadays. I can holiday when and where I want to be in the summer months. Gone are those days of enforced rigidity. Hallelujah.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  LostintheFog1999

  Maybe it's a recognised form of words.

  I recall that if an elder had to step aside for health reasons the same announcement was read out as for an elder being removed for a misdemeanor.

  It simply was announced that "so-and-so is no longer serving as an elder".

  It caused heartache at times because if the R&F didn't know it was health issues that made someone come off the body of elders the congregation was rife with rumours as to why the person had ceased to be an elder.

  I reckon it's a standard form of words in relation to AM3 as well... But we will wait and see.
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  Divisions deliberately caused by God?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  assuming that you don't dismiss genesis outright as a collection of myths, i was musing about the actions of god as recorded in genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the tower of babel.. this origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has god getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.. yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale.

  even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep.

  but no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.. what's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead he lets them wander off in tribes and family groups.

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  LostintheFog1999

  Assuming that you don't dismiss Genesis outright as a collection of myths, I was musing about the actions of God as recorded in Genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the Tower of Babel.

  This origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has God getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.

  Yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale. Even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep. But no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.

  What's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead He lets them wander off in tribes and family groups. Very insular. And no doubt the family heads quite quickly drawing up "them or us" survival techniques for their own tribal family. (Genesis 10:5.)

  What is the most divisive thing in the world leading to wars and conflict?

  Isn't it usually other nationalities, different tribes, people who speak a different language to your own. A grab for their land, wealth or possessions, or to take their women for the purpose of breeding. Surely God must have known that his actions would eventually lead to divisions and human casualties in time?

  He can't really blame humanity for fighting each other as it was him (if you believe this Genesis story) that caused the division in the first place!
  
  
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  things shelved, not looked into because of group think

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are some things i never really believed the jw taught...i just didn't really examine it closely.

  i shelved it, so to speak, thinking no one is perfect and they know more than me...if i ever thought about it at all.. i never believed that only jws would be spared at armageddon.

  i never believed the where in james, you went to the elders to confess being spiritually sick-always thought that referred to a real illness.

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  LostintheFog1999

  Have to agree completely with your post.

  As a born in, I never questioned anything in detail although (like you) a lot of stuff never made total sense. When you are born into the religion you have been indoctrinated from birth. The Bible stories told by believing parents from cradle upwards, followed by the 5 meetings a week (as it was then) and the family study at home.

  That's all you heard week in, week out, year in, year out. Your brain just absorbed the words as though it was true.

  Then, for me, a crack appeared when I began looking at the beliefs of other religions, and like water getting into a crack and ice widening the crack, it got bigger and bigger. Until light flooded in and everything was getting questioned properly for the first time after decades taking it in all on automatic pilot.

  In my case I was probably assisted in my exit journey by realising that the love directed at me was only conditional on my marching in step with the other indoctrinated people. Because the love quickly turned to ignoring me when I started to fade, followed by hatred towards me in the end.

  I wasn't blind all my life but I was wearing blinkers, but now I can see clearly and I am loving my life!
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  mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

  are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

  i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

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  LostintheFog1999

  It's a bit like the story of the emperor's new clothes.

  They are convinced that they are resplendent in their outfits as befits the Guardians of Doctrine.

  Whereas the increasing shouting and finger pointing from the sidewalk of former believers is "you're naked!" But they are not going to admit it because they can still fool the R+F that they are not.

  "Hey look at us, we're TV stars now. Please keep on paying our salaries, global travels, and expensive scotch, because hey we love you all."
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition  |  April 2023

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  study article 19. how can we strengthen our faith in jehovah’s promise of a new world?.

  17 many servants of jehovah have applied jehovah’s counsel to “keep in expectation”​—even for decades.

  louise, for example, began serving jehovah in 1939. she says: “at that time, i thought armageddon would come before i finished high school.

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  LostintheFog1999

  I have heard it from witnesses time after time, "I can't wait for the new world where I can learn to play the guitar", "... where I can learn to swim", "... where I can find out how to knit and crochet", etc; etc.

  FFS why aren't you doing those things now if that's what your heart desires? Why are you putting it off for the future? Who told you that you aren't allowed to do it now?

  Their refusal to engage with life as it is meant to be lived irritates me no end. Just because the big A was meant to be coming down the track never stopped me learning what I was attracted to even back when I was PIMI. I want to scream at the sheeple "Do it now!"
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  2023-01-27--Civil Unrest!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2023-01-27--civil unrest.

  click image to enlarge.. .

  https://postimg.cc/gxqvnfcq.

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  LostintheFog1999

  I feel sorry for the elderly and those with special needs. During the 2 years of the Covid pandemic most of them didn't see or get a visit from elders according to a post on a different website.

  I don't fancy their chances of help being readily available should civil unrest suddenly break out as the elders will be too busy protecting the congregation records to go visit the old folks.
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  Religious Trauma and the Fear of Armageddon

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. social
  2. current

  apparently it isn't just jw children who live with a fear of dying at armageddon, kids from born again families live with a similar fear, as this article explores.

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/31/rapture-films-left-behind-evangelical?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab.

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  LostintheFog1999

  Apparently it isn't just JW children who live with a fear of dying at Armageddon, kids from born again families live with a similar fear, as this article explores

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/31/rapture-films-left-behind-evangelical?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab
  
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  1936 "Riches"- How Many Versions Were There?

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  atlantis:.

  how many versions of the book called riches were there?.

  that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .

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  LostintheFog1999

  Yes, same here. My copy has the phonograph on Page 349 as well.