first off, i am unable to post this as a link for some reaon.
sorry to make you copy/paste.
but i had to share.... .
I see from the video that in the New World the brothers still have to keep clean-shaven with 1950's haircuts in order to avoid getting disfellowshipped for looking like all those dead worldly people with headbands that died at Armageddon.
At least their Kingdom Hall got a new rennovation after Armageddon. It's been remodelled into some sort of open-air coliseum.
i wonder...for those of you who were brought up as a jw or who have been "in" for many years, how do you feel about birthdays and christmas and celebrations in general now?.
the indoctrination/brainwashing is very strong.
once you are out, or, perhaps, still in but totally disillusioned and sure that it is all a lie, not the truth, do you find that you are determined to celebrate like mad to make up for what you missed, or do you find you have a lingering sense of guilt, however irrational you may now think it is?.
I was born-in but was never convinced that birthdays were wrong. I never saw the difference in celebrating the anniversary of events such as weddings and the anniversary of one's birth.
Birthdays are not a religious celebration, but Christmas is. So in my opinion, it should come down to your own religious beliefs when it comes to celebrating Christmas.
I think the Witnesses are right about the obvious pagan origins of Christmas and its traditions. So if you still believe in Jesus, you might or might not have some concern about the pagan traditions of Christmas. Or if you don't believe in Jesus, then why are you even celebrating his birthday in the first place?
But even though I saw and believed that the origins of Christmas were pagan while I was still living under my Witness parents' roof, I still believed it should be a concience matter rather than a disfellowshipping matter as to whether each person chose to celebrate it. After all, the bible says this right from the Witnesses own NWT:
" Welcome the [man] having weaknesses in [his] faith, but not to make decisions on inward questionings. One [man] has faith to eat everything, but the [man] who is weak eats vegetables. Let the one eating not look down on the one not eating, and let the one not eating not judge the one eating, for God has welcomed that one. Who are you to judge the house servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand.
One [man] judges one day as above another; another [man] judges one day as all others; let each [man] be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day observes it to Jehovah. Also, he who eats, eats to Jehovah, for he gives thanks to God; and he who does not eat does not eat to Jehovah, and yet gives thanks to God." (Romans 14:1-6)
it has been the understanding for decades that jehovah was using the group of anointed on earth to provide for his sheep.
they even changed the baptism questions to indicate acceptance of this arrangement.
many have been disfellowshipped (aka spiritually executed) for failing to fully support this arrangement.
It's no longer possible to show loyalty to both the Governing Body and the anointed on Earth. It can only be one or the other or neither. Doing nothing is the same as accepting the Governing Body and rejecting the direction of the anointed remnant.
What about showing loyalty to God instead of men?
" In answer Peter and the [other] apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. " (Acts 5:29)
"It is better to take refuge in Jehovah Than to trust in earthling man." (Psalm 118:8)
"Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs." (Psalm 146:3)
"For YOUR own sakes, hold off from the earthling man, whose breath is in his nostrils, for on what basis is he himself to be taken into account?" (Isaiah 2:22)
someone keeps posting on here from anointedjw.org.. now as many know it is a long time since i left so i am really baffled.. i have picked up that many more are saying they are of the anointed than when i was in even though the number is supposed to be going down!.
so how are these people who suddenly start taking the emblems viewed by the gb?.
are they newly baptised people generally or born-ins?.
i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
Or maybe you are God. You just don't remember because when you chose to take human form, you also chose to make yourself forget who you are. Maybe you split yourself into billions of different personalities and have been everyone who has ever lived and will be everyone who will ever be born. This is possible because since you are God, you are not confined by time but only choose to impose time on yourself with each new flesh you are born into.
The world is your playground.
Love thy neighbor as thyself, because after all... you are your neighbor.
i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
what did Stephen say before he was stoned?
He asked God to forgive his murders which included Paul, who later became one of the founders of early Christianity.
Who did Jesus say was the father of the pharisees?
He said their father was the Devil because they did not hold onto the truth.
Why did he stop them from stoning the lady when it had been commanded?
This verse is disputed as to is originality.
What were satan's santuaries if you read about him in Ezekiel?
In Heaven, which he desecrated.
How could Satan offer Jesus anything after what God told Nebachenezzar when he took credit for making babylon great?
Because it was up to God to allow kingdoms to be in power. Satan only had the power to pass those kindoms on to others.
Why did God forbid idols but tell the israelites to build 'copper serpent' and look upon it's eyes for healing?
Because the copper serpent was not worshipped, rather, it was the view of sin (the serpent) being hung on the pole or put to death that would save them.
Why in Isiah did God tell the Israelites he did NOT command for sacrifice and their sabbaths and everything were destestable to him?
Because it was not from their hearts that they did these things. He did not ask for sacrifices first. He asked for their love and commitment first.
Why in Jeremiah do the isrealites say they will continue to sacrifice to the queen of hte heavens because when they stop, all bad things happen to them.
The text you speak of answers itself. Here it is from the NIV:
" 16 “We will not listen to the message you have spoken to us in the name of the Lord ! 17 We will certainly do everything we said we would:We will burn incense to the Queen of Heaven and will pour out drink offerings to her just as we and our ancestors, our kings and our officials did in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. At that time we had plenty of food and were well off and suffered no harm. 18 But ever since we stopped burning incense to the Queen of Heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have had nothing and have been perishing by sword and famine.”
19 The women added, “When we burned incense to the Queen of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know that we were making cakes impressed with her image and pouring out drink offerings to her?”
20 Then Jeremiah said to all the people, both men and women, who were answering him, 21 “Did not the Lord rememberand call to mind the incense burned in the towns of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem by you and your ancestors, your kings and your officials and the people of the land? 22 When the Lord could no longer endure your wicked actions and the detestable things you did, your land became a curse and a desolate waste without inhabitants, as it is today. 23 Because you have burned incense and have sinned against the Lord and have not obeyed him or followed his law or his decrees or his stipulations, this disaster has come upon you, as you now see.” "
I do not claim to be a licensed psychariatrist or anything of the sort. But here is what I think is going on with you:
The Witnesses claim to be the only true religion.
170 million sperm are produced each day by a man.
Each day that those sperm are not released, more are created, thus increasing sperm count.
When your mother conceived, it was because only once out of those 170,000,000+ sperms won the race into your mother's egg. That was you. You won.
Out of all the billions of people on Earth, you were born into a very good living conditions (America, I presume?) instead of the majority of the population being born into poverty and other bad conditions.
Out of the millions of Americans, you were born into the "only true religion."
You grew up with these unimagininable odds ingrained into your subconcious.
Later on in life, you found out that this "only true religion" and unimaginable odds had turned out to be a lie.
So on a subconcious level, you paniced and tried to make sense of all this. There had to be some greater conspiracy.
I know! It wasn't the Witnesses who got it wrong! It was the entire idea of Christianity!
Wait. No. Maybe Christianity has it right. Maybe the Jews were actually from Satan! And maybe the Christians were actually God's answer to Satan's Nation!
Think about it....
No really... think about it....
i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
My JW grandmother who was a JW for like 80 years used to say "do you think Jehovah is tricking us?" as she got into her older years soon before she passed away.
Your two understandings seem to be that either:
1. Satan is actually the one true God
2. The god of the Old Testament was actually Satan pretending the be the one true God.
To your question - no. If the God of the Old Testament was the Satan in the New Testament, then prophecies about the Christ in the Old Testament would not have been fulfilled, such as the scroll of Isaiah that Jesus read and then stated "today, this prophecy has been fulfilled." The New Testament writers would not have quoted the Old Testament if it were about Satan pretending to be God. Also, if the God of the Old Testament was actually Satan, then the Jews would be the sons of Satan, and Hitler would actually be a good man for bringing the Holocaust.
i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
I have a prediction with two understandings also:
1. Obama will be re-elected.
2. Romney will be elected.
In either scenario, many people will be upset. This will make Jehovah very angry. Jesus Christ will return again, but only invisibly.
Do not be deceived. Whatever you think is the correct understanding, the opposite will be true. The Obama-nation will actually be standing in the Holy Place, even though you think otherwise. This means it is time to flee to the mountains (this was the bible's way of telling you to drink a case of Coors - hence the mountains that turn blue when they're Cold as the Rockies™ ).
i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.
infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.
it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.
Both of these understandings I personally can't debunk, so I'm too afraid to tell them both, even though I think I know which one is the truth and which one is the lie, I'm going to be well certain before I say anything.
Ok, so there are only two understandings of what will happen, but you're afraid to tell us what they are because you think one of them is the truth and one is a lie. So why don't you go ahead and tell us what these "two understandings" might be, so we'll know ahead of time what's coming in the future so we will be better prepared.
I'll be sure to bump this at the two month mark so you don't forget about your prediction that came true.
i posted a while ago i was interested in psychology.
and i had many options in mind to get a degree for.
but i found my knack!.
Another major you might want to look into besides Computer Science is Information Technology.
